Businesses back Hereford MP's call for eastern link road

A PUBLIC meeting of local businesspeople unanimously backed the call from Hereford's MP for an eastern link road and second river crossing to be included in the council's Core Strategy.

The meeting was hosted by Kidwells Law Solicitors at their offices in Rotherwas. 

Some 50 owners and staff from Herefordshire businesses took part in a wide-ranging discussion of the merits of the proposed new road, its positive economic effects and its impact in reducing traffic in the centre of Hereford. 

A unanimous vote in favour of pressing Herefordshire Council to include the new road in the new Core Strategy was passed at the end of the meeting.

Speaking afterwards, Jesse Norman MP said: "There was huge strength of feeling in the room, and I am delighted to have secured the support of such a wide cross-section of the Herefordshire business community for this common-sense measure to improve the prosperity of our county."
 

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5:00pm Tue 9 Apr 13

dippyhippy says...

Unusual, I know, but I have to agree with Jesse on this one - it does make sense. With a published cost of 20million pounds, it provides much more than the 27million pound "road to nowhere".
Unusual, I know, but I have to agree with Jesse on this one - it does make sense. With a published cost of 20million pounds, it provides much more than the 27million pound "road to nowhere". dippyhippy
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5:09pm Tue 9 Apr 13

Themightyboosh says...

yup i have to agree too we do need a bypass badly.
every town along the a49 has benifitted from having one.
imagine leominster without theres these days.
yup i have to agree too we do need a bypass badly. every town along the a49 has benifitted from having one. imagine leominster without theres these days. Themightyboosh
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12:47pm Wed 10 Apr 13

mizza21 says...

An eastern Bypass would remove a lot of the trucks, or would it?
Has anyone done a proper survey into traffic patterns through Hereford on the A49?
How does anyone know whether a bypass would make any discernible difference?

How do we know whether the traffic at the times when it affects people the most, (rush hours and saturday morning probably) would be largely unaffected by a bypass?

It may be a big old waste of money.
But possibly not as big a waste as the Road to nowhere, but then I wouldn't know without seeing all of the data.
An eastern Bypass would remove a lot of the trucks, or would it? Has anyone done a proper survey into traffic patterns through Hereford on the A49? How does anyone know whether a bypass would make any discernible difference? How do we know whether the traffic at the times when it affects people the most, (rush hours and saturday morning probably) would be largely unaffected by a bypass? It may be a big old waste of money. But possibly not as big a waste as the Road to nowhere, but then I wouldn't know without seeing all of the data. mizza21
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4:59pm Wed 10 Apr 13

William Rudd says...

Not this load of old tosh again.East, west east, west.
If you think this Tory Governments going to give us money for a by-pass then you are deluded.They would much more prefer to pay for things like £10 million funerals.
Not this load of old tosh again.East, west east, west. If you think this Tory Governments going to give us money for a by-pass then you are deluded.They would much more prefer to pay for things like £10 million funerals. William Rudd
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8:25pm Wed 10 Apr 13

Biomech says...

I'd be keen to know where it would be going.

You have the M50/M5 as a major North/South route, I would have thought the West side would have been better to deal with the Manchester/Stafford to South Wales commercial traffic
I'd be keen to know where it would be going. You have the M50/M5 as a major North/South route, I would have thought the West side would have been better to deal with the Manchester/Stafford to South Wales commercial traffic Biomech
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11:39am Thu 11 Apr 13

mizza21 says...

This is the thing..

Unintended consequences as alluded to by my old chum Biomech above.

Currently the route to South Wales is M50/A449
If HEREford were to have a Bypass, then more traffic would use it from the North/South Wales, creating more traffic and possibly introducing bottlenecks elsewhere.

Human waste will fill the space available.

Heres my radical solution to this.
To resolve HEREfords traffic problems introduce a one lane section(one carriageway the width of one vehicle) on the A49 North of HEreford, and control it iinneficiently with a set of ponderous traffic lights.

Commercial through traffic would give HEREford a wide berth and local traffic would have the roads to themselves.
I am well clever me..
This is the thing.. Unintended consequences as alluded to by my old chum Biomech above. Currently the route to South Wales is M50/A449 If HEREford were to have a Bypass, then more traffic would use it from the North/South Wales, creating more traffic and possibly introducing bottlenecks elsewhere. Human waste will fill the space available. Heres my radical solution to this. To resolve HEREfords traffic problems introduce a one lane section(one carriageway the width of one vehicle) on the A49 North of HEreford, and control it iinneficiently with a set of ponderous traffic lights. Commercial through traffic would give HEREford a wide berth and local traffic would have the roads to themselves. I am well clever me.. mizza21
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12:17pm Thu 11 Apr 13

ArmadilloSackRace says...

A road to the east would be the best way of attempting to link Hereford to the motorway network. If it started and finished on the A49 from north and south of the city then it would still be quicker to pass right around then it would to drive right through, but it also links people to the routes that carry people towards the M5, M50, and the A40/A449 to thr M4 at Newport.

that said, I can see that there would be less to go round to the west of the city if this bypass was looked at as purely a way to send the A49 around Hereford, and that is an obvious plus point. I do believe that linking to the routes that head towards the motorway is probably best for industry though, as they then have easy access to the whole country.
A road to the east would be the best way of attempting to link Hereford to the motorway network. If it started and finished on the A49 from north and south of the city then it would still be quicker to pass right around then it would to drive right through, but it also links people to the routes that carry people towards the M5, M50, and the A40/A449 to thr M4 at Newport. that said, I can see that there would be less to go round to the west of the city if this bypass was looked at as purely a way to send the A49 around Hereford, and that is an obvious plus point. I do believe that linking to the routes that head towards the motorway is probably best for industry though, as they then have easy access to the whole country. ArmadilloSackRace
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12:30pm Thu 11 Apr 13

littlewhitebull says...

The business people think an eastern bypass would be best.
However, today's HT says that the council are preparing for a western bypass, and are almost ready to submit a planning application for the first stage.
This should prove an interesting debate.
The business people think an eastern bypass would be best. However, today's HT says that the council are preparing for a western bypass, and are almost ready to submit a planning application for the first stage. This should prove an interesting debate. littlewhitebull
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12:34pm Thu 11 Apr 13

Biomech says...

I drive all over the country for work, personally, I avoid the A49 north and opt for the M5 most of the time via Worcester (Kidderminster, Manchester etc), purely because, while the A49 North is a good road, if you get stuck behind a lorry or tractor, you've had it for, literally, hours. (Culina!!!!!)

I'm on the fence personally. The M5 takes the bulk of commercial traffic from the North to Cardiff, Bristol, Newport etc. However, I can see the West costing more as there aren't as many major roads to link through so would really require one big long road, on the East however, it could be done in sections by building links between each of the major roads, A465, A49, M5, M50 etc
I drive all over the country for work, personally, I avoid the A49 north and opt for the M5 most of the time via Worcester (Kidderminster, Manchester etc), purely because, while the A49 North is a good road, if you get stuck behind a lorry or tractor, you've had it for, literally, hours. (Culina!!!!!) I'm on the fence personally. The M5 takes the bulk of commercial traffic from the North to Cardiff, Bristol, Newport etc. However, I can see the West costing more as there aren't as many major roads to link through so would really require one big long road, on the East however, it could be done in sections by building links between each of the major roads, A465, A49, M5, M50 etc Biomech
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12:38pm Thu 11 Apr 13

Biomech says...

I think what is needed is more of a ring road than a "bypass". I think the bulk of traffic IN Hereford is the people here trying to move around. Adding a bypass to avoid Hereford wouldn't help, I think we need a ring road that takes people around the edge of Hereford so people can get from one side to the others without going through the middle.

The Credenhill / Roman Road is a good start

I'm now off into town lol, wish me luck, I've yet to see the consequences of the Next store opening on the roads :P
I think what is needed is more of a ring road than a "bypass". I think the bulk of traffic IN Hereford is the people here trying to move around. Adding a bypass to avoid Hereford wouldn't help, I think we need a ring road that takes people around the edge of Hereford so people can get from one side to the others without going through the middle. The Credenhill / Roman Road is a good start I'm now off into town lol, wish me luck, I've yet to see the consequences of the Next store opening on the roads :P Biomech
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6:50pm Thu 11 Apr 13

megilleland says...

littlewhitebull wrote:
The business people think an eastern bypass would be best.
However, today's HT says that the council are preparing for a western bypass, and are almost ready to submit a planning application for the first stage.
This should prove an interesting debate.
The council commissioned an independent review supporting their western route 18 months ago:
http://www.herefords
hire.gov.uk/docs/110
715_Independent_Revi
ew_of_Hereford_Relie
f_Road_Technical_Stu
dies_final.pdf

Assumption 1.2.2
No consideration of detailed engineering feasibility or cost issues have been included as part of this review.

Oh well, then we can add another few million pounds on the bill.

Jesse Norman MP's paperRelieving Traffic Congestion in and around Hereford: Why East is Best
A proposal for discussion
http://www.jesse4her
eford.com/pdf/East_i
s_Best_paper_2010.pd
f
Interesting that the council want to spend a lot of money and Jesse Norman is trying to save us some money.
[quote][p][bold]littlewhitebull[/bold] wrote: The business people think an eastern bypass would be best. However, today's HT says that the council are preparing for a western bypass, and are almost ready to submit a planning application for the first stage. This should prove an interesting debate.[/p][/quote]The council commissioned an independent review supporting their western route 18 months ago: http://www.herefords hire.gov.uk/docs/110 715_Independent_Revi ew_of_Hereford_Relie f_Road_Technical_Stu dies_final.pdf [quote]Assumption 1.2.2 No consideration of detailed engineering feasibility or cost issues have been included as part of this review.[/quote] Oh well, then we can add another few million pounds on the bill. Jesse Norman MP's paperRelieving Traffic Congestion in and around Hereford: Why East is Best A proposal for discussion http://www.jesse4her eford.com/pdf/East_i s_Best_paper_2010.pd f Interesting that the council want to spend a lot of money and Jesse Norman is trying to save us some money. megilleland
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9:18pm Thu 11 Apr 13

littlewhitebull says...

Thanks, megilleland - an interesting read.
I wonder if the council will stick to their guns?
Thanks, megilleland - an interesting read. I wonder if the council will stick to their guns? littlewhitebull
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10:37am Fri 12 Apr 13

ArmadilloSackRace says...

Biomech wrote:
I think what is needed is more of a ring road than a "bypass". I think the bulk of traffic IN Hereford is the people here trying to move around. Adding a bypass to avoid Hereford wouldn't help, I think we need a ring road that takes people around the edge of Hereford so people can get from one side to the others without going through the middle.

The Credenhill / Roman Road is a good start

I'm now off into town lol, wish me luck, I've yet to see the consequences of the Next store opening on the roads :P
You're probably right actually. In an ideal world we could have both a ring road and bypass but we don't live in an ideal world. To most Herefordians your ring road suggestion would be by far the most useful.
[quote][p][bold]Biomech[/bold] wrote: I think what is needed is more of a ring road than a "bypass". I think the bulk of traffic IN Hereford is the people here trying to move around. Adding a bypass to avoid Hereford wouldn't help, I think we need a ring road that takes people around the edge of Hereford so people can get from one side to the others without going through the middle. The Credenhill / Roman Road is a good start I'm now off into town lol, wish me luck, I've yet to see the consequences of the Next store opening on the roads :P[/p][/quote]You're probably right actually. In an ideal world we could have both a ring road and bypass but we don't live in an ideal world. To most Herefordians your ring road suggestion would be by far the most useful. ArmadilloSackRace
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3:41pm Wed 17 Apr 13

melissabonnington says...

Having actually read the details and gone beyond the spin given from Jesse Norman MP and letters such as this, has nobody had any consideration for the environment? The eastern link will completely destroy the Lugg Meadows, which is one of only 20 of these types of environments left in the UK. And the excuse given is about cost? Absolute disgrace to place "affordability" over the environment. A vote for the eastern link IS A VOTE AGAINST THE ENVIRONMENT!! The western link will achieve what the eastern link proposes. What we need is to SAVE THE LUGG MEADOWS and build the western link!!!!”
Having actually read the details and gone beyond the spin given from Jesse Norman MP and letters such as this, has nobody had any consideration for the environment? The eastern link will completely destroy the Lugg Meadows, which is one of only 20 of these types of environments left in the UK. And the excuse given is about cost? Absolute disgrace to place "affordability" over the environment. A vote for the eastern link IS A VOTE AGAINST THE ENVIRONMENT!! The western link will achieve what the eastern link proposes. What we need is to SAVE THE LUGG MEADOWS and build the western link!!!!” melissabonnington
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3:54pm Thu 18 Apr 13

dippyhippy says...

Melissa, I cetaintly do not want to see the Lugg Meadow destroyed. I have taken on board ideas about taking the route further out, so that the Meadow would be protected. There are ways around it I am sure. And I am equally sure it would still come in cheaper than 140 million pounds. Save the meadow, save money,save the city. And while I am at it,save the 14 Lime Trees! Its all gone a bit quiet for my liking on that front.....
Melissa, I cetaintly do not want to see the Lugg Meadow destroyed. I have taken on board ideas about taking the route further out, so that the Meadow would be protected. There are ways around it I am sure. And I am equally sure it would still come in cheaper than 140 million pounds. Save the meadow, save money,save the city. And while I am at it,save the 14 Lime Trees! Its all gone a bit quiet for my liking on that front..... dippyhippy
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