Plans unveiled for new Hereford fire station

Hereford Times: Plans on show for new fire station on Bath Street in Hereford.
(l-r), Richie Jordan (District Commander, Herefordshire) & Alan Jones (Capital Projects Manager, Fire Service) take a look at the plans. (6248664) Plans on show for new fire station on Bath Street in Hereford. (l-r), Richie Jordan (District Commander, Herefordshire) & Alan Jones (Capital Projects Manager, Fire Service) take a look at the plans. (6248664)

HEREFORD'S firefighters revealed their plans this week to move to a new station.

Crews said they have needed a new headquarters for 20 years and hope the base could be up and running by next year.

The designs, exhibited at the current fire station on St Owens Street, show how a new base equipped with training facilities would be located just around the corner on Bath Street.

The final plans are expected to be submitted for planning permission in July – and would mean a land swap with Herefordshire Council for the authority's Bath Street offices.

“It’s something the lads have been promised for 20 years,” said Herefordshire's district commander Richie Jordan.

“The tower we have now was designed for when we were using ladders with hooks on the end – everything’s changed since then, it’s not fit for purpose any more.”

The new base would enable crews to carry out training which they currently do in Peterchurch.

It would include a three-storey ‘building’ that could be used for simulations and drills by the county’s crews and also feature facilities designed to accommodate both the firefighters, and the masses of hi-tech kit now required for the job.

Built more than 60 years ago, the St Owens Street station is ill-equipped to store much of new kit that has been developed since then, said Alan Jones, Hereford and Worcester Fire and Rescue's capital projects manager.

In the case of emergencies, vehicles have to be manoeuvred around the site simply to gain access to certain equipment.

However the site is well-located; situated close enough to the city centre and well-placed for access to major roads.

This is one reason why the Bath Street plot would be ideal for the station’s relocation, Mr Jones added.

Under the plans the fire service would take on the majority of the council site on Bath Street, and the council would receive the St Owens Street plot – which has been proposed as a possible site for accommodation for the new University of Hereford.

The costs for the new station itself would be met by capital funding from the fire service.

The public consultation period finishes tomorrow (Friday). For more information, or to give your views on the project, contact consultation@hwfire.org.uk .

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8:58pm Thu 15 May 14

ad47uk says...

Why do we need a new fire station when we are only going to have one Engine in the City, who is going to benefit from this? i doubt it will be us.

Who ever had the idea to have one engine in the city, i really hope it is not them who are waiting for the engine to get to them while it is fighting a fire elsewhere.

Can't afford to keep more then one engine, then we can't afford a new station.
Not that a engine would be able to get anywhere because it will get caught in the traffic.

i don't know if it is me or that Hereford have gone to the dogs.
Why do we need a new fire station when we are only going to have one Engine in the City, who is going to benefit from this? i doubt it will be us. Who ever had the idea to have one engine in the city, i really hope it is not them who are waiting for the engine to get to them while it is fighting a fire elsewhere. Can't afford to keep more then one engine, then we can't afford a new station. Not that a engine would be able to get anywhere because it will get caught in the traffic. i don't know if it is me or that Hereford have gone to the dogs. ad47uk
  • Score: 4

9:09pm Thu 15 May 14

jarvis 2 says...

ad47uk wrote:
Why do we need a new fire station when we are only going to have one Engine in the City, who is going to benefit from this? i doubt it will be us.

Who ever had the idea to have one engine in the city, i really hope it is not them who are waiting for the engine to get to them while it is fighting a fire elsewhere.

Can't afford to keep more then one engine, then we can't afford a new station.
Not that a engine would be able to get anywhere because it will get caught in the traffic.

i don't know if it is me or that Hereford have gone to the dogs.
could not put it any better
[quote][p][bold]ad47uk[/bold] wrote: Why do we need a new fire station when we are only going to have one Engine in the City, who is going to benefit from this? i doubt it will be us. Who ever had the idea to have one engine in the city, i really hope it is not them who are waiting for the engine to get to them while it is fighting a fire elsewhere. Can't afford to keep more then one engine, then we can't afford a new station. Not that a engine would be able to get anywhere because it will get caught in the traffic. i don't know if it is me or that Hereford have gone to the dogs.[/p][/quote]could not put it any better jarvis 2
  • Score: 5

9:37pm Thu 15 May 14

dippyhippy says...

This is an awfully ugly building which they want to plonk right in the middle of a conservation area!

The fire service have said they are prepared to wait for a better, alternative site.
The council have said in two years, the county bus station will be surplus to requirements.

Can anybody else see the dots that need joining together......??
This is an awfully ugly building which they want to plonk right in the middle of a conservation area! The fire service have said they are prepared to wait for a better, alternative site. The council have said in two years, the county bus station will be surplus to requirements. Can anybody else see the dots that need joining together......?? dippyhippy
  • Score: 13

10:15pm Thu 15 May 14

megilleland says...

This building would not be out of place on an industrial estate, certainly not in a conservation area, close to the city centre. Something more creative and useful needs to be done here. Another reason for the fire station to be sited at Bath Street HWFR say is it needs to be close to its retained firemen - all 15 of them. Doesn't matter about all the residents living close by in this sensitive area. A lot of people are concerned about the behind the scenes activities of the HWFR and Herefordshire Council being sprung onto a concerned public. This concern has been expressed on herefordvoice.co.uk where 595 replies have been made on this topic with 23,206 views. Enough said.
This building would not be out of place on an industrial estate, certainly not in a conservation area, close to the city centre. Something more creative and useful needs to be done here. Another reason for the fire station to be sited at Bath Street HWFR say is it needs to be close to its retained firemen - all 15 of them. Doesn't matter about all the residents living close by in this sensitive area. A lot of people are concerned about the behind the scenes activities of the HWFR and Herefordshire Council being sprung onto a concerned public. This concern has been expressed on herefordvoice.co.uk where 595 replies have been made on this topic with 23,206 views. Enough said. megilleland
  • Score: 6

10:33pm Thu 15 May 14

megilleland says...

megilleland wrote:
This building would not be out of place on an industrial estate, certainly not in a conservation area, close to the city centre. Something more creative and useful needs to be done here. Another reason for the fire station to be sited at Bath Street HWFR say is it needs to be close to its retained firemen - all 15 of them. Doesn't matter about all the residents living close by in this sensitive area. A lot of people are concerned about the behind the scenes activities of the HWFR and Herefordshire Council being sprung onto a concerned public. This concern has been expressed on herefordvoice.co.uk where 595 replies have been made on this topic with 23,206 views. Enough said.
Sorry only 13,206 views - just checked my addition!
[quote][p][bold]megilleland[/bold] wrote: This building would not be out of place on an industrial estate, certainly not in a conservation area, close to the city centre. Something more creative and useful needs to be done here. Another reason for the fire station to be sited at Bath Street HWFR say is it needs to be close to its retained firemen - all 15 of them. Doesn't matter about all the residents living close by in this sensitive area. A lot of people are concerned about the behind the scenes activities of the HWFR and Herefordshire Council being sprung onto a concerned public. This concern has been expressed on herefordvoice.co.uk where 595 replies have been made on this topic with 23,206 views. Enough said.[/p][/quote]Sorry only 13,206 views - just checked my addition! megilleland
  • Score: 2

7:11am Fri 16 May 14

Ubique1 says...

The design of the new station is ugly and modern - it has no place in a Conservation Area.
It appears that the present Station has been neglected , why are they unable to refurbish it with the money put aside for the new one ?
If the Tower us no longer Fit for Purpose take it down .
Re the training facilities at Peterchurch , it's not only Hereford based Firefighters who use it , again spend some of the money saved from not building a new station on upgrading this location.
Also suggest that the Fire Service Management should take a look at the Hereford Voice to gauge the feeling of Hereford residents and beyond.
The design of the new station is ugly and modern - it has no place in a Conservation Area. It appears that the present Station has been neglected , why are they unable to refurbish it with the money put aside for the new one ? If the Tower us no longer Fit for Purpose take it down . Re the training facilities at Peterchurch , it's not only Hereford based Firefighters who use it , again spend some of the money saved from not building a new station on upgrading this location. Also suggest that the Fire Service Management should take a look at the Hereford Voice to gauge the feeling of Hereford residents and beyond. Ubique1
  • Score: 4

10:24am Fri 16 May 14

x-entricity says...

I really cannot understand our council. They are broke and cutting costs everywhere and then they go on about a new university. We don't need or want one. Another pie in the sky idea to waste OUR money instead of concentrating on things that really matter.
I really cannot understand our council. They are broke and cutting costs everywhere and then they go on about a new university. We don't need or want one. Another pie in the sky idea to waste OUR money instead of concentrating on things that really matter. x-entricity
  • Score: 2

11:38am Fri 16 May 14

TwoWheelsGood says...

An appalling, cheap and nasty design, designed by a 'real estate agent' and an insult to Hereford. Do residents of Central Avenue and Lloyd Street know that they will have a massive 4 storey open steel framed training tower for live training just yards from their back gardens, with all the smoke, noise and disturbance that entails? Put this down at Rotherwas. In fact, why can't we have two smaller stations, one either side of the river, given the Councils grandiose plans for Rotherwas, with the enterprise zone, university accommodation and thousands of houses?
An appalling, cheap and nasty design, designed by a 'real estate agent' and an insult to Hereford. Do residents of Central Avenue and Lloyd Street know that they will have a massive 4 storey open steel framed training tower for live training just yards from their back gardens, with all the smoke, noise and disturbance that entails? Put this down at Rotherwas. In fact, why can't we have two smaller stations, one either side of the river, given the Councils grandiose plans for Rotherwas, with the enterprise zone, university accommodation and thousands of houses? TwoWheelsGood
  • Score: 10

6:54pm Fri 16 May 14

William Rudd says...

More red bricks.Probably have a surplus to requirements job lot from down the road
More red bricks.Probably have a surplus to requirements job lot from down the road William Rudd
  • Score: 0

7:11pm Fri 16 May 14

poulry says...

Great, please get it approved and built as soon as possible . Or will you dawdle around and talk about if for another 20 years.
Great, please get it approved and built as soon as possible . Or will you dawdle around and talk about if for another 20 years. poulry
  • Score: -3

11:39pm Fri 16 May 14

Cambo 1 says...

I've noticed on the drawing of the new purposed fire station that there are only 4 doors for fire appliances where as the current one has 5 so it would seem they've factored in the cuts to the fire service in the design of the new station!
I've noticed on the drawing of the new purposed fire station that there are only 4 doors for fire appliances where as the current one has 5 so it would seem they've factored in the cuts to the fire service in the design of the new station! Cambo 1
  • Score: 2

3:20pm Mon 19 May 14

TwoWheelsGood says...

Cambo 1 wrote:
I've noticed on the drawing of the new purposed fire station that there are only 4 doors for fire appliances where as the current one has 5 so it would seem they've factored in the cuts to the fire service in the design of the new station!
Each door houses a double depth bay - so room for 8 appliances/equipment
. I was told that the possible loss of one appliance would make no difference to the proposals.
[quote][p][bold]Cambo 1[/bold] wrote: I've noticed on the drawing of the new purposed fire station that there are only 4 doors for fire appliances where as the current one has 5 so it would seem they've factored in the cuts to the fire service in the design of the new station![/p][/quote]Each door houses a double depth bay - so room for 8 appliances/equipment . I was told that the possible loss of one appliance would make no difference to the proposals. TwoWheelsGood
  • Score: 2

10:26pm Mon 19 May 14

Cambo 1 says...

Thanks twowheelsgood that explains why there's only 4 doors then.
Thanks twowheelsgood that explains why there's only 4 doors then. Cambo 1
  • Score: 0

1:14am Wed 21 May 14

richardsharpe15535855 says...

When will the council learn we don't like change? We like being 60 years behind the rest of the world! Universities and retail quarters? Pah! Give us retirement homes and houses no one can afford, the more young people we can drive out of this county the better. We'll get eastern europeans to mash our potatoes when we're too old to look after ourselves (unless UKIP have their way). Tell Scania and MAN their fire engines are too big and modern and we want our horses back. Who cares if the retained will take 20 minutes to turn in, as long as it's not my house burning down or my car that's hit a tree, I'd prefer it all done on the cheap
When will the council learn we don't like change? We like being 60 years behind the rest of the world! Universities and retail quarters? Pah! Give us retirement homes and houses no one can afford, the more young people we can drive out of this county the better. We'll get eastern europeans to mash our potatoes when we're too old to look after ourselves (unless UKIP have their way). Tell Scania and MAN their fire engines are too big and modern and we want our horses back. Who cares if the retained will take 20 minutes to turn in, as long as it's not my house burning down or my car that's hit a tree, I'd prefer it all done on the cheap richardsharpe15535855
  • Score: -2

2:58pm Wed 21 May 14

dippyhippy says...

Hi Richard!
I am not against change - not at all, I can't wait for the entire cabinet to be changed next May following the elections!
I am also not against a new fire station, but I would like some thought put into where it goes!
I am not against new shops - let's fill up High Town and support our local traders!
I am, however, very much against money that we simply have not got being frittered away, valuable land and assets being "transferred" or "swapped", and most definitely not being "best value" for the tax payer!
I am none too keen on major decisions which impact on many, being made behind closed doors, and ultimately, by just one person.
That is not democracy!
Hi Richard! I am not against change - not at all, I can't wait for the entire cabinet to be changed next May following the elections! I am also not against a new fire station, but I would like some thought put into where it goes! I am not against new shops - let's fill up High Town and support our local traders! I am, however, very much against money that we simply have not got being frittered away, valuable land and assets being "transferred" or "swapped", and most definitely not being "best value" for the tax payer! I am none too keen on major decisions which impact on many, being made behind closed doors, and ultimately, by just one person. That is not democracy! dippyhippy
  • Score: 3

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