Gay marriage debate in Herefordshire

A DEBATE on gay marriage will be held at Leominster Priory on January 28.

Mike Bourke, former bishop of Wolverhampton, will lead the debate at the Hereford Diocese Inclusive Church Forum’s open meeting.

Earlier this month the government announced plans to make it illegal for the Church of England and Church in Wales to offer same-sex marriages when legislation enables them elsewhere.

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7:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13

bobby47 says...

Me? Personally speaking, I couldn't care less on which side of the argument you stand.
I take the view that we are all equal and if a minority group want a church marriage then it's fine and dandy by me.
But, for a huge number of people, they are against this idea and just because they are against it, it shouldn't automatically follow that they are in some way homophobic.
The problem with our hysterical society is as soon as anyone emerges and says anything in opposition to our new way of designing society, they are screamed at and branded, bigots racists and homophobic.
We are one step away from the hysteria that existed during the Salem Witch Trials when everyone who wanted to live and survive a burning at the stake, shouted 'Witch'.
Me? I couldn't care bloody less. Anything that promotes happiness and goodwill is fine by me.
Me? Personally speaking, I couldn't care less on which side of the argument you stand. I take the view that we are all equal and if a minority group want a church marriage then it's fine and dandy by me. But, for a huge number of people, they are against this idea and just because they are against it, it shouldn't automatically follow that they are in some way homophobic. The problem with our hysterical society is as soon as anyone emerges and says anything in opposition to our new way of designing society, they are screamed at and branded, bigots racists and homophobic. We are one step away from the hysteria that existed during the Salem Witch Trials when everyone who wanted to live and survive a burning at the stake, shouted 'Witch'. Me? I couldn't care bloody less. Anything that promotes happiness and goodwill is fine by me. bobby47
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7:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13

WYSIATI says...

King Bobby - with you on this and wish that we could get on and move beyond it. Getting wound up by people's personal choices that affect no one but themselves seems a bizarre waste of good time and energy.

It was one of the better things that the last Govt did to bring in civil unions, it's a small and overdue step to make that marriage.

There's a lot of nonsense spouted about unnatural and out of kilter with history - it's time to move on and simply enjoy the benefits of relaxing about what other people choose to do in the privacy of their own lives.

Bring on same sex marriage and women bishops and recognise that life is better if we just give a bit more and interfere a bit less
King Bobby - with you on this and wish that we could get on and move beyond it. Getting wound up by people's personal choices that affect no one but themselves seems a bizarre waste of good time and energy. It was one of the better things that the last Govt did to bring in civil unions, it's a small and overdue step to make that marriage. There's a lot of nonsense spouted about unnatural and out of kilter with history - it's time to move on and simply enjoy the benefits of relaxing about what other people choose to do in the privacy of their own lives. Bring on same sex marriage and women bishops and recognise that life is better if we just give a bit more and interfere a bit less WYSIATI
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12:07am Fri 4 Jan 13

Biomech says...

Personally, I'm against gay marriage. Purely and simply because it's a religious thing and against the rules of the "club" (I'm not religious). I'm quite sick of people joining a culture that they don't principally follow and demanding it all be changed.

Imagine if I went to Spain and demanded the shops stay open during the siesta, or that I share a bed with my unwed girlfriend in Dubai.

You join a club, you follow the rules.
Personally, I'm against gay marriage. Purely and simply because it's a religious thing and against the rules of the "club" (I'm not religious). I'm quite sick of people joining a culture that they don't principally follow and demanding it all be changed. Imagine if I went to Spain and demanded the shops stay open during the siesta, or that I share a bed with my unwed girlfriend in Dubai. You join a club, you follow the rules. Biomech
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7:40am Fri 4 Jan 13

silentbull says...

Im with bobby on this one

And could i add that this country has for too long been living in the past,
Its about time this country 'woke up' and started living in the present,
Long gone are the days of looking down on people just because they live different life's.
Everybody is equal in my book and has long as their beliefs don't effect my life and what i believe then that's fine
Im with bobby on this one And could i add that this country has for too long been living in the past, Its about time this country 'woke up' and started living in the present, Long gone are the days of looking down on people just because they live different life's. Everybody is equal in my book and has long as their beliefs don't effect my life and what i believe then that's fine silentbull
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8:39am Fri 4 Jan 13

WYSIATI says...

Biomech - I think marriage is a secular thing - you are not married without the legal paperwork - and that's just as it should be. Absolutely agree you join the club you play by the rules (provided they are legal) - the rules of marriage are set by Govt and if religious institutions don't want to play they don't have to (they've been granted all sorts of exemptions to work around them).
Biomech - I think marriage is a secular thing - you are not married without the legal paperwork - and that's just as it should be. Absolutely agree you join the club you play by the rules (provided they are legal) - the rules of marriage are set by Govt and if religious institutions don't want to play they don't have to (they've been granted all sorts of exemptions to work around them). WYSIATI
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9:10am Fri 4 Jan 13

bobby47 says...

Well said Biomech my good lad. Whilst I disagree with you, you and many other people feel the same and tragically, nowadays, the hysterical guardians of our new social order scream 'bigot or homophobic' if you raise any objection to any new social design.
Well said Biomech my good lad. Whilst I disagree with you, you and many other people feel the same and tragically, nowadays, the hysterical guardians of our new social order scream 'bigot or homophobic' if you raise any objection to any new social design. bobby47
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12:36pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Biomech says...

Indeed.
We now live in a (UK) society were excessive tolerence has led to a "do as you like" culture.

There's no restrictions on anything because if there is, some minority group complains.

There is no incentive to behave or use common sense because you don't have to.

There is absolutely no sense of responsibility, everything is someone elses fault. Being fat, not working, crime.... the list goes on.
Indeed. We now live in a (UK) society were excessive tolerence has led to a "do as you like" culture. There's no restrictions on anything because if there is, some minority group complains. There is no incentive to behave or use common sense because you don't have to. There is absolutely no sense of responsibility, everything is someone elses fault. Being fat, not working, crime.... the list goes on. Biomech
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12:40pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Biomech says...

Oh, and to add, being gay or a trans/v/ is NOT normal or "natural". Just because something is more common doesn't make it normal. Now if gay couples could biologically reproduce, I'd be happy to change my mind.
Oh, and to add, being gay or a trans/v/ is NOT normal or "natural". Just because something is more common doesn't make it normal. Now if gay couples could biologically reproduce, I'd be happy to change my mind. Biomech
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