Tommy Agombar might not pass FA’s owners and directors’ test, admits Hereford United advisor Andy Lonsdale

Tommy Agombar.

Tommy Agombar.

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HEREFORD United advisor Andy Lonsdale admits that majority shareholder Tommy Agombar might not pass the FA’s owners and directors’ test.

“The FA rulings are very difficult,” said Lonsdale.

“Most people have a chequered past.

“In normal law, convictions are spent after a period of time but in the FA they are not.

“Nowhere else in business do you get preferential creditors but with the FA football creditors take preference so it’s a very strange animal to deal with.”

Lonsdale said Agombar had ploughed more than £200,000 into the club since his arrival.

“He’s passionate about his football – and he could lose it.”

Advisor Joel Nathan added: “Vinny Samways would say some very good things about Tommy and so, too, would Andy Gray.

“A good name is former West Ham player Kenny Brown – he has worked with Tommy and he’s now at Dagenham and Redbridge.”

Nathan said Tommy's son, Tommy Junior, was no longer a director of Hereford United.

“He’s gone off the list now because of the grief he was getting from the fans and Tommy did not want to put him in that position, which I think is a very fair comment.”

Nathan added: “The chairman is yet to be announced. Someone will take the position and we will be making that announcement shortly.”

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8:06am Fri 25 Jul 14

secretcyrille says...

Agombar propaganda machine gone into overdrive? "He's a football man", the net is closing, David Keyte, you are next! Watch your back, the truth will come out eventually!
Agombar propaganda machine gone into overdrive? "He's a football man", the net is closing, David Keyte, you are next! Watch your back, the truth will come out eventually! secretcyrille
  • Score: 18

9:30am Fri 25 Jul 14

A.Non01 says...

“In normal law, convictions are spent after a period of time but in the FA they are not."

Actually this is false!" A Conviction resulting in a 7 year prison sentance (as served by Agmobar) is never spent under The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 and remains unspent under the new interpretation of this act that came into force this year.

We all knew from Day 1 of this saga that Agombar would fail the owners and directors test AND we (along with Jesse Norman) have been pushing the FA hard to come out and say so. It's a shame Agombar and his army of advisors didn't consider this before wrecking our once proud football club.

There is a solution though guys. It's still not too late for you to hand this back to the fans and leave!
“In normal law, convictions are spent after a period of time but in the FA they are not." Actually this is false!" A Conviction resulting in a 7 year prison sentance (as served by Agmobar) is never spent under The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 and remains unspent under the new interpretation of this act that came into force this year. We all knew from Day 1 of this saga that Agombar would fail the owners and directors test AND we (along with Jesse Norman) have been pushing the FA hard to come out and say so. It's a shame Agombar and his army of advisors didn't consider this before wrecking our once proud football club. There is a solution though guys. It's still not too late for you to hand this back to the fans and leave! A.Non01
  • Score: 21

9:32am Fri 25 Jul 14

A.Non01 says...

....Oh and for the record, I think the removal of Tommy Jr from the board may have more to do with his own Sine Die ban, issued in 2013 by the Essex FA for, funnily eough debts, than to any "grief" he has been given by Hereford fans!
....Oh and for the record, I think the removal of Tommy Jr from the board may have more to do with his own Sine Die ban, issued in 2013 by the Essex FA for, funnily eough debts, than to any "grief" he has been given by Hereford fans! A.Non01
  • Score: 14

10:28am Fri 25 Jul 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

I don't like his belief that everyone has a 'chequered past' at all. Clearly he means a past with criminal convictions. This is extremely poor judgement and totally undermines any decision he might make as Chairman. He should be nowhere near the job.
I don't like his belief that everyone has a 'chequered past' at all. Clearly he means a past with criminal convictions. This is extremely poor judgement and totally undermines any decision he might make as Chairman. He should be nowhere near the job. Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 16

10:31am Fri 25 Jul 14

Marchuk says...

Erm, Joel, what percentage of the UK population have accrued a tariff of seven years or higher which means that it will never be spent? I can assure you it's not "most of us".

This requirement is in the test as a measure of honesty and proof that the person wanting to own the club is a law abiding citizen. To be honest, they are simple requirements that the vast majority of people would pass.
Erm, Joel, what percentage of the UK population have accrued a tariff of seven years or higher which means that it will never be spent? I can assure you it's not "most of us". This requirement is in the test as a measure of honesty and proof that the person wanting to own the club is a law abiding citizen. To be honest, they are simple requirements that the vast majority of people would pass. Marchuk
  • Score: 14

12:00pm Fri 25 Jul 14

littlewhitebull says...

Two weeks tomorrow the 'new' Hereford United are due to play their first league game of the season at Edgar Street.
If the new owner/directors/advi
sors have not foreseen the immense problems that were known a long time ago - (see all posts/articles,etc. on this site) their business and football acumen must be lower than first thought - and the bar was set low!
How can they expect a large turn out for the first game?
The 'loyal' fan base of this club has been treated with complete disdain. I was there on shivering winter nights last season with less than 1000 in the ground.
Now, I appear to be listed among those who are trouble makers and nasty for expressing my immense concern for the club I have paid to watch for 56 years!!
I am now very angry by the way the new regime has treated all of the great fans of this club who have expressed legitimate concerns about what is going on. Honesty is the best policy with fans. We may not like what we hear, but at least we are kept in the picture.
Sadly, Agombar, et al, have given almost no news. And some of that news was suspect, or worse in some cases.
If Agombar is such a good businessman, why did he buy a club with debts that were way above what he expected? Surely, good practice is to look at the books, go through them with a fine tooth comb and assess if you can afford to buy?
If I was buying a house I would need to assess my finances; agree with a lender what mortgage I could afford; have the property I want to buy surveyed; get a solicitor to assess the due legal process, etc. And then I would buy on the basis of the scrutiny process.
Would I buy a property because it was going very cheap, not apply the above process, and find I had a property that was falling down and needed more money than I had to repair it? Of course not.
Sorry to rant on, but I am very angry and upset at what has happened to this once great club.
MY club: OUR club.
Two weeks tomorrow the 'new' Hereford United are due to play their first league game of the season at Edgar Street. If the new owner/directors/advi sors have not foreseen the immense problems that were known a long time ago - (see all posts/articles,etc. on this site) their business and football acumen must be lower than first thought - and the bar was set low! How can they expect a large turn out for the first game? The 'loyal' fan base of this club has been treated with complete disdain. I was there on shivering winter nights last season with less than 1000 in the ground. Now, I appear to be listed among those who are trouble makers and nasty for expressing my immense concern for the club I have paid to watch for 56 years!! I am now very angry by the way the new regime has treated all of the great fans of this club who have expressed legitimate concerns about what is going on. Honesty is the best policy with fans. We may not like what we hear, but at least we are kept in the picture. Sadly, Agombar, et al, have given almost no news. And some of that news was suspect, or worse in some cases. If Agombar is such a good businessman, why did he buy a club with debts that were way above what he expected? Surely, good practice is to look at the books, go through them with a fine tooth comb and assess if you can afford to buy? If I was buying a house I would need to assess my finances; agree with a lender what mortgage I could afford; have the property I want to buy surveyed; get a solicitor to assess the due legal process, etc. And then I would buy on the basis of the scrutiny process. Would I buy a property because it was going very cheap, not apply the above process, and find I had a property that was falling down and needed more money than I had to repair it? Of course not. Sorry to rant on, but I am very angry and upset at what has happened to this once great club. MY club: OUR club. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 29

12:00pm Fri 25 Jul 14

littlewhitebull says...

Two weeks tomorrow the 'new' Hereford United are due to play their first league game of the season at Edgar Street.
If the new owner/directors/advi
sors have not foreseen the immense problems that were known a long time ago - (see all posts/articles,etc. on this site) their business and football acumen must be lower than first thought - and the bar was set low!
How can they expect a large turn out for the first game?
The 'loyal' fan base of this club has been treated with complete disdain. I was there on shivering winter nights last season with less than 1000 in the ground.
Now, I appear to be listed among those who are trouble makers and nasty for expressing my immense concern for the club I have paid to watch for 56 years!!
I am now very angry by the way the new regime has treated all of the great fans of this club who have expressed legitimate concerns about what is going on. Honesty is the best policy with fans. We may not like what we hear, but at least we are kept in the picture.
Sadly, Agombar, et al, have given almost no news. And some of that news was suspect, or worse in some cases.
If Agombar is such a good businessman, why did he buy a club with debts that were way above what he expected? Surely, good practice is to look at the books, go through them with a fine tooth comb and assess if you can afford to buy?
If I was buying a house I would need to assess my finances; agree with a lender what mortgage I could afford; have the property I want to buy surveyed; get a solicitor to assess the due legal process, etc. And then I would buy on the basis of the scrutiny process.
Would I buy a property because it was going very cheap, not apply the above process, and find I had a property that was falling down and needed more money than I had to repair it? Of course not.
Sorry to rant on, but I am very angry and upset at what has happened to this once great club.
MY club: OUR club.
Two weeks tomorrow the 'new' Hereford United are due to play their first league game of the season at Edgar Street. If the new owner/directors/advi sors have not foreseen the immense problems that were known a long time ago - (see all posts/articles,etc. on this site) their business and football acumen must be lower than first thought - and the bar was set low! How can they expect a large turn out for the first game? The 'loyal' fan base of this club has been treated with complete disdain. I was there on shivering winter nights last season with less than 1000 in the ground. Now, I appear to be listed among those who are trouble makers and nasty for expressing my immense concern for the club I have paid to watch for 56 years!! I am now very angry by the way the new regime has treated all of the great fans of this club who have expressed legitimate concerns about what is going on. Honesty is the best policy with fans. We may not like what we hear, but at least we are kept in the picture. Sadly, Agombar, et al, have given almost no news. And some of that news was suspect, or worse in some cases. If Agombar is such a good businessman, why did he buy a club with debts that were way above what he expected? Surely, good practice is to look at the books, go through them with a fine tooth comb and assess if you can afford to buy? If I was buying a house I would need to assess my finances; agree with a lender what mortgage I could afford; have the property I want to buy surveyed; get a solicitor to assess the due legal process, etc. And then I would buy on the basis of the scrutiny process. Would I buy a property because it was going very cheap, not apply the above process, and find I had a property that was falling down and needed more money than I had to repair it? Of course not. Sorry to rant on, but I am very angry and upset at what has happened to this once great club. MY club: OUR club. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 11

12:10pm Fri 25 Jul 14

wyesider says...

littlewhitebull wrote:
Two weeks tomorrow the 'new' Hereford United are due to play their first league game of the season at Edgar Street.
If the new owner/directors/advi

sors have not foreseen the immense problems that were known a long time ago - (see all posts/articles,etc. on this site) their business and football acumen must be lower than first thought - and the bar was set low!
How can they expect a large turn out for the first game?
The 'loyal' fan base of this club has been treated with complete disdain. I was there on shivering winter nights last season with less than 1000 in the ground.
Now, I appear to be listed among those who are trouble makers and nasty for expressing my immense concern for the club I have paid to watch for 56 years!!
I am now very angry by the way the new regime has treated all of the great fans of this club who have expressed legitimate concerns about what is going on. Honesty is the best policy with fans. We may not like what we hear, but at least we are kept in the picture.
Sadly, Agombar, et al, have given almost no news. And some of that news was suspect, or worse in some cases.
If Agombar is such a good businessman, why did he buy a club with debts that were way above what he expected? Surely, good practice is to look at the books, go through them with a fine tooth comb and assess if you can afford to buy?
If I was buying a house I would need to assess my finances; agree with a lender what mortgage I could afford; have the property I want to buy surveyed; get a solicitor to assess the due legal process, etc. And then I would buy on the basis of the scrutiny process.
Would I buy a property because it was going very cheap, not apply the above process, and find I had a property that was falling down and needed more money than I had to repair it? Of course not.
Sorry to rant on, but I am very angry and upset at what has happened to this once great club.
MY club: OUR club.
Little white bull, I share your anger and concerns.
You have summed up the situation very well.
A brilliant post.
[quote][p][bold]littlewhitebull[/bold] wrote: Two weeks tomorrow the 'new' Hereford United are due to play their first league game of the season at Edgar Street. If the new owner/directors/advi sors have not foreseen the immense problems that were known a long time ago - (see all posts/articles,etc. on this site) their business and football acumen must be lower than first thought - and the bar was set low! How can they expect a large turn out for the first game? The 'loyal' fan base of this club has been treated with complete disdain. I was there on shivering winter nights last season with less than 1000 in the ground. Now, I appear to be listed among those who are trouble makers and nasty for expressing my immense concern for the club I have paid to watch for 56 years!! I am now very angry by the way the new regime has treated all of the great fans of this club who have expressed legitimate concerns about what is going on. Honesty is the best policy with fans. We may not like what we hear, but at least we are kept in the picture. Sadly, Agombar, et al, have given almost no news. And some of that news was suspect, or worse in some cases. If Agombar is such a good businessman, why did he buy a club with debts that were way above what he expected? Surely, good practice is to look at the books, go through them with a fine tooth comb and assess if you can afford to buy? If I was buying a house I would need to assess my finances; agree with a lender what mortgage I could afford; have the property I want to buy surveyed; get a solicitor to assess the due legal process, etc. And then I would buy on the basis of the scrutiny process. Would I buy a property because it was going very cheap, not apply the above process, and find I had a property that was falling down and needed more money than I had to repair it? Of course not. Sorry to rant on, but I am very angry and upset at what has happened to this once great club. MY club: OUR club.[/p][/quote]Little white bull, I share your anger and concerns. You have summed up the situation very well. A brilliant post. wyesider
  • Score: 17

4:46pm Mon 28 Jul 14

SonyaB says...

There are reasons that Agombar/Lonsdale are not trusted.
(1) Agombar is a convicted crook.
(2) NUMEROUS promises were made to pay debts which were not kept, even if we are to believe that some have finally been paid.
(3) One of the first thing's this regime tried to do was to get the leases signed over to them.
(4) By a remarkable coincidence there are people at the club now with a background in... property development.

Publish the proof that Agombar has indeed put £200,000 in to the club and I promise I'll never criticise him again!
There are reasons that Agombar/Lonsdale are not trusted. (1) Agombar is a convicted crook. (2) NUMEROUS promises were made to pay debts which were not kept, even if we are to believe that some have finally been paid. (3) One of the first thing's this regime tried to do was to get the leases signed over to them. (4) By a remarkable coincidence there are people at the club now with a background in... property development. Publish the proof that Agombar has indeed put £200,000 in to the club and I promise I'll never criticise him again! SonyaB
  • Score: 2

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