Hereford United director John Edwards: 'We are now 100% certain that we have a product to sell'

Hereford United director John Edwards: 'We are now 100% certain that we have a product to sell'

Hereford United director John Edwards: 'We are now 100% certain that we have a product to sell'

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HEREFORD United directors John Edwards and Elke Thuerlings say the club has a future.

United's creditors rejected a CVA proposal to repay money over a three-year period on Thursday.

And insolvency practitioner Marc Landsman told United’s shareholders on Friday he expected the club to be in compulsory liquidation on September 1.

But Edwards said this morning: “Initially, we said that we would not sell season tickets or approach sponsors until we knew that we had a product to sell.

“After meeting with investors over the weekend, we are now 100% certain that we have a product to sell which is why we are selling season tickets and approaching sponsors.”

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1:19pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hereford Common Sense says...

Am I the only one confused with this article? Is it not possible that the club will not be trading after the next court hearing, or have I missed something over the weekend? Perhaps Mr Edwards would like to share this 100% certainty, as I was under the impression that the club may no longer exist as it is soon as the last realistic CVA hope was thrown out the window? Also isn't there still a current issue with the number allowed to watch a match? What is this 100% certainty?

I think people and potential sponsors are going to need a lot more than just words and suggest people keep hold of their money until they know more facts. Whether this be via a season ticket or sponsorship investment. If there is "a product to sell" there is nothing to say the current establishment are the people to sell it, let alone honour the sale. Keep your dosh in your pocket, under the mattress or wherever, until you find out what really is "certain".
Am I the only one confused with this article? Is it not possible that the club will not be trading after the next court hearing, or have I missed something over the weekend? Perhaps Mr Edwards would like to share this 100% certainty, as I was under the impression that the club may no longer exist as it is soon as the last realistic CVA hope was thrown out the window? Also isn't there still a current issue with the number allowed to watch a match? What is this 100% certainty? I think people and potential sponsors are going to need a lot more than just words and suggest people keep hold of their money until they know more facts. Whether this be via a season ticket or sponsorship investment. If there is "a product to sell" there is nothing to say the current establishment are the people to sell it, let alone honour the sale. Keep your dosh in your pocket, under the mattress or wherever, until you find out what really is "certain". Hereford Common Sense
  • Score: 14

1:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

roger3589 says...

NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB.

YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT.

THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE
NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB. YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE roger3589
  • Score: 0

2:01pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hereford Common Sense says...

roger3589 wrote:
NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB.

YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT.

THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE
So you suggest people risking losing their money in the hope the club may be saved despite the CVA plan going out the window, the recent directors being unfit or proven liars and capacity of Edgar Street being exceptionally low due to H&S risks?

As much as I appreciate there is passion, dedication. loyalty, but definitely I urge caution. Unless of course you have money to throw away.
[quote][p][bold]roger3589[/bold] wrote: NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB. YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE[/p][/quote]So you suggest people risking losing their money in the hope the club may be saved despite the CVA plan going out the window, the recent directors being unfit or proven liars and capacity of Edgar Street being exceptionally low due to H&S risks? As much as I appreciate there is passion, dedication. loyalty, but definitely I urge caution. Unless of course you have money to throw away. Hereford Common Sense
  • Score: 5

2:35pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

This tiny article raises more questions than it answers. Couldn't the journalist have asked for some more detail?
This tiny article raises more questions than it answers. Couldn't the journalist have asked for some more detail? Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 19

2:45pm Mon 18 Aug 14

DaveyJonesLocker says...

Any true fan of HUFC will be there on tuesday night, just like theyve been there for all the other games, they dont have to buy a season ticket. A true fan supports its club through thick and thin. A true fan would do anything it could to keep its club going. A true fan wouldnt stand outside the stadium when there is a game going on inside the stadium. A true fan supports the badge on those lads shirts.
So i will be there with all the other true fans, and when i look back in years to come i can say at least i did what i could, at least i tried to keep my club alive, at least i was there when it tooks its last breath, at least i was a part of HUFC's beautiful history right until the very end.
Any true fan of HUFC will be there on tuesday night, just like theyve been there for all the other games, they dont have to buy a season ticket. A true fan supports its club through thick and thin. A true fan would do anything it could to keep its club going. A true fan wouldnt stand outside the stadium when there is a game going on inside the stadium. A true fan supports the badge on those lads shirts. So i will be there with all the other true fans, and when i look back in years to come i can say at least i did what i could, at least i tried to keep my club alive, at least i was there when it tooks its last breath, at least i was a part of HUFC's beautiful history right until the very end. DaveyJonesLocker
  • Score: 11

2:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

Hereford Common Sense wrote:
roger3589 wrote:
NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB.

YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT.

THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE
So you suggest people risking losing their money in the hope the club may be saved despite the CVA plan going out the window, the recent directors being unfit or proven liars and capacity of Edgar Street being exceptionally low due to H&S risks?

As much as I appreciate there is passion, dedication. loyalty, but definitely I urge caution. Unless of course you have money to throw away.
Roger: Hereford Common Sense is only saying to come along on Tuesday night. That's not like risking money on a whole season ticket.

It would be really great to get a big turn out. HUST have made their point loud and clear, so it is time that all the moderates politely made theirs. I mean, supporting Hereford is all about being plucky underdogs, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Hereford Common Sense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roger3589[/bold] wrote: NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB. YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE[/p][/quote]So you suggest people risking losing their money in the hope the club may be saved despite the CVA plan going out the window, the recent directors being unfit or proven liars and capacity of Edgar Street being exceptionally low due to H&S risks? As much as I appreciate there is passion, dedication. loyalty, but definitely I urge caution. Unless of course you have money to throw away.[/p][/quote]Roger: Hereford Common Sense is only saying to come along on Tuesday night. That's not like risking money on a whole season ticket. It would be really great to get a big turn out. HUST have made their point loud and clear, so it is time that all the moderates politely made theirs. I mean, supporting Hereford is all about being plucky underdogs, isn't it? Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 7

3:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

bobby47 says...

Whatever the outcome of this latest slither of news is, and only God knows what'll transpire, it's time to stop putting your faith in HUST, Supporters Direct and anyone else who longs to see the whole thing collapse. They, the ones who've dreamt up this direct action package of rubbish, they're no different to all the others. They are wannabee's. they want to acquire the Club, they want to mix with the great and the good and it's they who'll see our Club hit rock bottom and end up playing bloody Sinkums in some top of the table clash on King Bloody George Playing Fields a few years before I drop down dead because my cholesterol has reached epic preparations and gifted me a rotten heart attack.
Stop listening to the rubbish. Go back to the ground, pay your money and simply see what happens. We've no bloody cards to play anymore. We are knackered and anyone who tells you that the future is fine and dandy once we rid ourselves of our current owners are madder than me.
Take no notice of these fools who question your loyalty simply because you want to watch a game and you dared to join the five hundred who they claim are traitors to the cause and they ain't proper supporters.
Tell them to 'get stuffed', I'm wrapping me colors around my neck and I'm off to watch a game.'
These people, these wannabee's have pressed our buttons, made us all angry with people we knew little about and it's they who've created the hysteria that now sees many social network commentators proclaiming, 'I want to see Hereford United FC fold and I want us to be reborn Hereford Athletic or worse Hereford bloody Thistle.
It's all madness and we've allowed ourselves to become wrapped up in it. My God! Many are now preparing for the glorious day when our players trot out competing in some obscure league and truly believe it'll all be heaven sent and a victory for the real fans of our Club.
My God! When Mr Ellis stepped forward and embellished his antecedent history giving everyone and his dog an opportunity to give the new regime a kicking, I had no idea that so many intelligent people could so easily be convinced that destroying the revenue of our Club was a good thing. It's madness. End the boycott. Go back to your place in the ground. The place where you've stood for years and simply support your Club and stop following false prophets!
And now I'm going to get buried in phlegm!
Whatever the outcome of this latest slither of news is, and only God knows what'll transpire, it's time to stop putting your faith in HUST, Supporters Direct and anyone else who longs to see the whole thing collapse. They, the ones who've dreamt up this direct action package of rubbish, they're no different to all the others. They are wannabee's. they want to acquire the Club, they want to mix with the great and the good and it's they who'll see our Club hit rock bottom and end up playing bloody Sinkums in some top of the table clash on King Bloody George Playing Fields a few years before I drop down dead because my cholesterol has reached epic preparations and gifted me a rotten heart attack. Stop listening to the rubbish. Go back to the ground, pay your money and simply see what happens. We've no bloody cards to play anymore. We are knackered and anyone who tells you that the future is fine and dandy once we rid ourselves of our current owners are madder than me. Take no notice of these fools who question your loyalty simply because you want to watch a game and you dared to join the five hundred who they claim are traitors to the cause and they ain't proper supporters. Tell them to 'get stuffed', I'm wrapping me colors around my neck and I'm off to watch a game.' These people, these wannabee's have pressed our buttons, made us all angry with people we knew little about and it's they who've created the hysteria that now sees many social network commentators proclaiming, 'I want to see Hereford United FC fold and I want us to be reborn Hereford Athletic or worse Hereford bloody Thistle. It's all madness and we've allowed ourselves to become wrapped up in it. My God! Many are now preparing for the glorious day when our players trot out competing in some obscure league and truly believe it'll all be heaven sent and a victory for the real fans of our Club. My God! When Mr Ellis stepped forward and embellished his antecedent history giving everyone and his dog an opportunity to give the new regime a kicking, I had no idea that so many intelligent people could so easily be convinced that destroying the revenue of our Club was a good thing. It's madness. End the boycott. Go back to your place in the ground. The place where you've stood for years and simply support your Club and stop following false prophets! And now I'm going to get buried in phlegm! bobby47
  • Score: 2

3:24pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hereford Common Sense says...

Cendrick Smemt wrote:
Hereford Common Sense wrote:
roger3589 wrote:
NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB.

YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT.

THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE
So you suggest people risking losing their money in the hope the club may be saved despite the CVA plan going out the window, the recent directors being unfit or proven liars and capacity of Edgar Street being exceptionally low due to H&S risks?

As much as I appreciate there is passion, dedication. loyalty, but definitely I urge caution. Unless of course you have money to throw away.
Roger: Hereford Common Sense is only saying to come along on Tuesday night. That's not like risking money on a whole season ticket.

It would be really great to get a big turn out. HUST have made their point loud and clear, so it is time that all the moderates politely made theirs. I mean, supporting Hereford is all about being plucky underdogs, isn't it?
I get that and sincerely admire the passion.

I just dont want anyone to be misled and lose out. Articles quoting that we have "100% certainty" and the other drivel that has come from the current management team is misleading when we look at what is currently in the public domain and factual. What was it the week before? "Everything as normal"? Days before that "Nothing more can be done to satisfy H&S"? and so on. I just urge everyone to be cautious with their dosh, but accept a "one-off" pay as you attend match isn't risky.

I don't represent HUST. I feel for you true passionate supporters. I think you have been treated like appallingly by the current and past regime. I hope that the silver lining does give a fantastic chance for the birth of a new team. They are going to need that passion just as much.
[quote][p][bold]Cendrick Smemt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hereford Common Sense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roger3589[/bold] wrote: NOW, MORE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME, IS THE TIME TO START SUPPORTING THE CLUB. YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE ON (AND NEITHER DO I) BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HEREFORD UNITED FOR THE CLUB TO SURVIVE IT NEEDS ALL THE FANS IT CAN GET FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. THERE MAY STILL BE HOPE THAT SOMETHING GOOD MAY COME FROM THIS DEBACLE[/p][/quote]So you suggest people risking losing their money in the hope the club may be saved despite the CVA plan going out the window, the recent directors being unfit or proven liars and capacity of Edgar Street being exceptionally low due to H&S risks? As much as I appreciate there is passion, dedication. loyalty, but definitely I urge caution. Unless of course you have money to throw away.[/p][/quote]Roger: Hereford Common Sense is only saying to come along on Tuesday night. That's not like risking money on a whole season ticket. It would be really great to get a big turn out. HUST have made their point loud and clear, so it is time that all the moderates politely made theirs. I mean, supporting Hereford is all about being plucky underdogs, isn't it?[/p][/quote]I get that and sincerely admire the passion. I just dont want anyone to be misled and lose out. Articles quoting that we have "100% certainty" and the other drivel that has come from the current management team is misleading when we look at what is currently in the public domain and factual. What was it the week before? "Everything as normal"? Days before that "Nothing more can be done to satisfy H&S"? and so on. I just urge everyone to be cautious with their dosh, but accept a "one-off" pay as you attend match isn't risky. I don't represent HUST. I feel for you true passionate supporters. I think you have been treated like appallingly by the current and past regime. I hope that the silver lining does give a fantastic chance for the birth of a new team. They are going to need that passion just as much. Hereford Common Sense
  • Score: 11

3:37pm Mon 18 Aug 14

mizza21 says...

My Dearest Booby47
I am one of the shower that is currently not attending matches.
I find it hard to forget what Keyte did.
I put money in buckets last season.
The new lot are a bunch of cockney cants but you are right, they haven't done a lot wrong. There's just such an orrible taste in the mouth from the way the players and staff and suppliers were treated.
Dropping out of the Conference was probably inevitable without a south asian Sugar Daddy and nobody wants that.

I would feel bad attending a game for the people owed money by the club. Not HMRC or the council but the little people.

You are right about one thing though. HUST do seem to have an agenda which they are not completely honest about.

My warmest regards to you
My Dearest Booby47 I am one of the shower that is currently not attending matches. I find it hard to forget what Keyte did. I put money in buckets last season. The new lot are a bunch of cockney cants but you are right, they haven't done a lot wrong. There's just such an orrible taste in the mouth from the way the players and staff and suppliers were treated. Dropping out of the Conference was probably inevitable without a south asian Sugar Daddy and nobody wants that. I would feel bad attending a game for the people owed money by the club. Not HMRC or the council but the little people. You are right about one thing though. HUST do seem to have an agenda which they are not completely honest about. My warmest regards to you mizza21
  • Score: 9

3:44pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

Bobby: your words are as poetic as they are true. I'll now wipe the spit off my face and applaud you. Well said.

...but, I must confess, I quite like the name Hereford Thistle.
Bobby: your words are as poetic as they are true. I'll now wipe the spit off my face and applaud you. Well said. ...but, I must confess, I quite like the name Hereford Thistle. Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 8

3:53pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hereford Common Sense says...

Must admit I quite like Hereford Thistle too. Or maybe Hereford Park Rangers? Or even Hereford Un-United does seem more apt sadly
Must admit I quite like Hereford Thistle too. Or maybe Hereford Park Rangers? Or even Hereford Un-United does seem more apt sadly Hereford Common Sense
  • Score: 5

3:59pm Mon 18 Aug 14

bobby47 says...

Mizza my dear old friend. We are where we are and there's no longer any point in reflecting upon the rights and wrongs of the Mr Keyte tenure of office. It's gone and there's no putting it right.
Go back to the ground old friend. Stand in your usual place and see where the winds take us. We were knackered yesterday, were knackered today and we'll more than likely be knackered tomorrow, but at the very least you'll be able to stand on the stern of our holed ship and say, 'I was there when we were swallowed up by the brine'.
Just go back Mizza and enjoy whatever is left of the once legendary Hereford United.
Take care old friend.
Mizza my dear old friend. We are where we are and there's no longer any point in reflecting upon the rights and wrongs of the Mr Keyte tenure of office. It's gone and there's no putting it right. Go back to the ground old friend. Stand in your usual place and see where the winds take us. We were knackered yesterday, were knackered today and we'll more than likely be knackered tomorrow, but at the very least you'll be able to stand on the stern of our holed ship and say, 'I was there when we were swallowed up by the brine'. Just go back Mizza and enjoy whatever is left of the once legendary Hereford United. Take care old friend. bobby47
  • Score: 8

4:30pm Mon 18 Aug 14

AndyM442 says...

Today's announcement from the club begs more questions than it gives answers. Who is investing? Where is the money coming from? Why won't the Directors tell the fans simple information?

I find it laughable that there are the same two or three people on here kicking HUST constantly without a single shred of evidence. Have you people ever tried to talk to a HUST board member?

I did at Malvern and they were very approachable and honest. Something that the football club has not been for several months. I saw nothing but honest football fans in those I met from HUST.

Maybe one or two on here should come away from the keyboard and into the real world - and talk to them.
Today's announcement from the club begs more questions than it gives answers. Who is investing? Where is the money coming from? Why won't the Directors tell the fans simple information? I find it laughable that there are the same two or three people on here kicking HUST constantly without a single shred of evidence. Have you people ever tried to talk to a HUST board member? I did at Malvern and they were very approachable and honest. Something that the football club has not been for several months. I saw nothing but honest football fans in those I met from HUST. Maybe one or two on here should come away from the keyboard and into the real world - and talk to them. AndyM442
  • Score: 9

5:29pm Mon 18 Aug 14

mizza21 says...

Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest, it's just that the article on this here website where Chris Williams is cosying up to John Hale makes his judgement look questionable.

HUST ought to be impartial and if it's true about investment then where does that leave them? What if the current regime rescue HUFC 1939 Ltd and make a success of it over the next couple of years?

Of course I assume like everyone who has observed their practices that talk of investment is just that, talk.
Moneys is moneys and talk is cheap as has been widely demonstrated by all the guff on these here pages, including mine.
Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest, it's just that the article on this here website where Chris Williams is cosying up to John Hale makes his judgement look questionable. HUST ought to be impartial and if it's true about investment then where does that leave them? What if the current regime rescue HUFC 1939 Ltd and make a success of it over the next couple of years? Of course I assume like everyone who has observed their practices that talk of investment is just that, talk. Moneys is moneys and talk is cheap as has been widely demonstrated by all the guff on these here pages, including mine. mizza21
  • Score: -1

5:33pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

The evidence is the constant stream of negativity (even slander) on forums, social media, HT comments, parades with coffins... It's been going on for months and it has been hard to miss. You get called a selection of four letter words for daring to play devil's advocate.

But to be fair, it's quite possible that the comments aren't being made by people who are paid-up members of HUST, but regardless, they are championing HUST's stance. Unfortunately, they are championing it in such a manner as to have alienated other supporters (which is ironic, as that was the big criticism of the current regime).
The evidence is the constant stream of negativity (even slander) on forums, social media, HT comments, parades with coffins... It's been going on for months and it has been hard to miss. You get called a selection of four letter words for daring to play devil's advocate. But to be fair, it's quite possible that the comments aren't being made by people who are paid-up members of HUST, but regardless, they are championing HUST's stance. Unfortunately, they are championing it in such a manner as to have alienated other supporters (which is ironic, as that was the big criticism of the current regime). Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 7

6:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

A.Non01 says...

The fact remains that people turning up for games, however well intentioned are NOT supporting the club financially. All they are doing is helping Agombar (yes he is still on the scene despite announcements to the contrary) and his associates to cling onto power and move closer towards their goal which is anything but the long term viability of the football club.

Everything they have done so far proves that they are in this purely for their own gain, hence there absolute reluctance to pay anyone unless they have not choice. Thats why despite a high profile raft of payments recently there are still football creditors unpaid - including some of that wonderful youth team that did us so proud last season.

Before people think of attending any of their games, people need to stop and realise that the ONLY way to save HUFC in any form is by removing these people, and the only way to do that is to stand up and support the boycott.
The fact remains that people turning up for games, however well intentioned are NOT supporting the club financially. All they are doing is helping Agombar (yes he is still on the scene despite announcements to the contrary) and his associates to cling onto power and move closer towards their goal which is anything but the long term viability of the football club. Everything they have done so far proves that they are in this purely for their own gain, hence there absolute reluctance to pay anyone unless they have not choice. Thats why despite a high profile raft of payments recently there are still football creditors unpaid - including some of that wonderful youth team that did us so proud last season. Before people think of attending any of their games, people need to stop and realise that the ONLY way to save HUFC in any form is by removing these people, and the only way to do that is to stand up and support the boycott. A.Non01
  • Score: -6

6:29pm Mon 18 Aug 14

AndyM442 says...

mizza21 wrote:
Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest, it's just that the article on this here website where Chris Williams is cosying up to John Hale makes his judgement look questionable.

HUST ought to be impartial and if it's true about investment then where does that leave them? What if the current regime rescue HUFC 1939 Ltd and make a success of it over the next couple of years?

Of course I assume like everyone who has observed their practices that talk of investment is just that, talk.
Moneys is moneys and talk is cheap as has been widely demonstrated by all the guff on these here pages, including mine.
"You are right about one thing though. HUST do seem to have an agenda which they are not completely honest about."

Your quote, 3.37pm. Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest - except for you.
[quote][p][bold]mizza21[/bold] wrote: Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest, it's just that the article on this here website where Chris Williams is cosying up to John Hale makes his judgement look questionable. HUST ought to be impartial and if it's true about investment then where does that leave them? What if the current regime rescue HUFC 1939 Ltd and make a success of it over the next couple of years? Of course I assume like everyone who has observed their practices that talk of investment is just that, talk. Moneys is moneys and talk is cheap as has been widely demonstrated by all the guff on these here pages, including mine.[/p][/quote]"You are right about one thing though. HUST do seem to have an agenda which they are not completely honest about." Your quote, 3.37pm. Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest - except for you. AndyM442
  • Score: 3

6:49pm Mon 18 Aug 14

bobby47 says...

Andy, Just go back. Put your hand in your pocket, hand over your hard earned money and watch what may well be the final days of your team competing outside the Hereford leagues.
Just go back Andy. Everyone, whether its HUST, Supporters Direct, the bloggers on the social media sites, those that boycott and those that didn't boycott, all without exception started off from a good place in wanting to aid our Club. But, there is now no longer any logic to any of this.
Supporters are now divided, some will probably never speak to one another again, we've collectively driven all our revenue streams away and we are still in the same position. Bloody knackered and in exactly the same place as when we first started the so called 'noble cause'.
Go back Andy and support your Club. It's of no concern to me now where my money ends up. I couldn't care less. All I know is we've got buggar all to show for trying to starve and suffocate the new proprietors out and to continue this cycle of anger, spite and fiery rhetoric is a pointless excercise in futility. There is no longer any logic to this boycott and so I say 'go back'.
Simply go back and witness the opposition shrink with fear as they hear the roar of a thousand demented and angry United supporters who visited the ground because they wanted to watch a game. Go support your Club Andy before its all to late.
Andy, Just go back. Put your hand in your pocket, hand over your hard earned money and watch what may well be the final days of your team competing outside the Hereford leagues. Just go back Andy. Everyone, whether its HUST, Supporters Direct, the bloggers on the social media sites, those that boycott and those that didn't boycott, all without exception started off from a good place in wanting to aid our Club. But, there is now no longer any logic to any of this. Supporters are now divided, some will probably never speak to one another again, we've collectively driven all our revenue streams away and we are still in the same position. Bloody knackered and in exactly the same place as when we first started the so called 'noble cause'. Go back Andy and support your Club. It's of no concern to me now where my money ends up. I couldn't care less. All I know is we've got buggar all to show for trying to starve and suffocate the new proprietors out and to continue this cycle of anger, spite and fiery rhetoric is a pointless excercise in futility. There is no longer any logic to this boycott and so I say 'go back'. Simply go back and witness the opposition shrink with fear as they hear the roar of a thousand demented and angry United supporters who visited the ground because they wanted to watch a game. Go support your Club Andy before its all to late. bobby47
  • Score: 3

9:01pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

A.Non01 wrote:
The fact remains that people turning up for games, however well intentioned are NOT supporting the club financially. All they are doing is helping Agombar (yes he is still on the scene despite announcements to the contrary) and his associates to cling onto power and move closer towards their goal which is anything but the long term viability of the football club.

Everything they have done so far proves that they are in this purely for their own gain, hence there absolute reluctance to pay anyone unless they have not choice. Thats why despite a high profile raft of payments recently there are still football creditors unpaid - including some of that wonderful youth team that did us so proud last season.

Before people think of attending any of their games, people need to stop and realise that the ONLY way to save HUFC in any form is by removing these people, and the only way to do that is to stand up and support the boycott.
HUFC can't be saved by boycotting now. The intention of the boycott was to make the owners pay the former staff and to say 'hands off the leases', but sadly all it has achieved is to push the club even closer to the precipice than it was already. If you want to do something to help the club in its historic guise, then go and support it while you still can!
[quote][p][bold]A.Non01[/bold] wrote: The fact remains that people turning up for games, however well intentioned are NOT supporting the club financially. All they are doing is helping Agombar (yes he is still on the scene despite announcements to the contrary) and his associates to cling onto power and move closer towards their goal which is anything but the long term viability of the football club. Everything they have done so far proves that they are in this purely for their own gain, hence there absolute reluctance to pay anyone unless they have not choice. Thats why despite a high profile raft of payments recently there are still football creditors unpaid - including some of that wonderful youth team that did us so proud last season. Before people think of attending any of their games, people need to stop and realise that the ONLY way to save HUFC in any form is by removing these people, and the only way to do that is to stand up and support the boycott.[/p][/quote]HUFC can't be saved by boycotting now. The intention of the boycott was to make the owners pay the former staff and to say 'hands off the leases', but sadly all it has achieved is to push the club even closer to the precipice than it was already. If you want to do something to help the club in its historic guise, then go and support it while you still can! Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 4

3:16am Tue 19 Aug 14

petet25 says...

The way I see it is if HUFC somehow make it through this, there is great potential to have a lot of entertaining football at Edgar street as we climb up the ranks. If HUFC fold, then a phoenix club would be the way forward however how long will that take?? Years?? There aren't even any guarantee's that it will happen (At least not at Edgar street).

Keyte was to blame for the whole situation. His budgets (predicting a higher gate than anyone else would of expected), blaming the fan's for not going to games and then washing his hands of things after he built up the huge debt.

Agombar seem's to of been the wrong guy for the club... The lies, not paying people when he said, the whole thing with the conference bond... The list goes on....

However, since he failed the fit and proper test and has gone, there seems to be just a few options....

Carry on boycotting each game, seal the fate of the club and have the possible option of a phoenix club ready to launch in a year or so. Probably not at Edgar street and there's no guarantees that will happen.

OR

Go to the games, show your support for the players and boost the gates. If we manage a high gate tonight... who knows? Maybe some investor will see what a great club HUFC is, how big the gates are compared to other teams in the southern league and may invest a large chunk of cash to get us out of this mess while getting rid of those who are only interested in HUFC for their own non football related gains. Barely any fan's going through the gates only prevents this from happening.

If the club still folds, then at least people would be able to enjoy a last few games at Edgar street.
The way I see it is if HUFC somehow make it through this, there is great potential to have a lot of entertaining football at Edgar street as we climb up the ranks. If HUFC fold, then a phoenix club would be the way forward however how long will that take?? Years?? There aren't even any guarantee's that it will happen (At least not at Edgar street). Keyte was to blame for the whole situation. His budgets (predicting a higher gate than anyone else would of expected), blaming the fan's for not going to games and then washing his hands of things after he built up the huge debt. Agombar seem's to of been the wrong guy for the club... The lies, not paying people when he said, the whole thing with the conference bond... The list goes on.... However, since he failed the fit and proper test and has gone, there seems to be just a few options.... Carry on boycotting each game, seal the fate of the club and have the possible option of a phoenix club ready to launch in a year or so. Probably not at Edgar street and there's no guarantees that will happen. OR Go to the games, show your support for the players and boost the gates. If we manage a high gate tonight... who knows? Maybe some investor will see what a great club HUFC is, how big the gates are compared to other teams in the southern league and may invest a large chunk of cash to get us out of this mess while getting rid of those who are only interested in HUFC for their own non football related gains. Barely any fan's going through the gates only prevents this from happening. If the club still folds, then at least people would be able to enjoy a last few games at Edgar street. petet25
  • Score: 6

7:41am Tue 19 Aug 14

Hereford Common Sense says...

petet25 wrote:
The way I see it is if HUFC somehow make it through this, there is great potential to have a lot of entertaining football at Edgar street as we climb up the ranks. If HUFC fold, then a phoenix club would be the way forward however how long will that take?? Years?? There aren't even any guarantee's that it will happen (At least not at Edgar street).

Keyte was to blame for the whole situation. His budgets (predicting a higher gate than anyone else would of expected), blaming the fan's for not going to games and then washing his hands of things after he built up the huge debt.

Agombar seem's to of been the wrong guy for the club... The lies, not paying people when he said, the whole thing with the conference bond... The list goes on....

However, since he failed the fit and proper test and has gone, there seems to be just a few options....

Carry on boycotting each game, seal the fate of the club and have the possible option of a phoenix club ready to launch in a year or so. Probably not at Edgar street and there's no guarantees that will happen.

OR

Go to the games, show your support for the players and boost the gates. If we manage a high gate tonight... who knows? Maybe some investor will see what a great club HUFC is, how big the gates are compared to other teams in the southern league and may invest a large chunk of cash to get us out of this mess while getting rid of those who are only interested in HUFC for their own non football related gains. Barely any fan's going through the gates only prevents this from happening.

If the club still folds, then at least people would be able to enjoy a last few games at Edgar street.
Just pay as you go and do not buy a season ticket until you know what is factually going on. You need more than just a vague and unsubstantiated comment in the local rag. Obviously the same goes for anyone considering investing into anything that appears to have a future hanging in the balance or a bleak future.
[quote][p][bold]petet25[/bold] wrote: The way I see it is if HUFC somehow make it through this, there is great potential to have a lot of entertaining football at Edgar street as we climb up the ranks. If HUFC fold, then a phoenix club would be the way forward however how long will that take?? Years?? There aren't even any guarantee's that it will happen (At least not at Edgar street). Keyte was to blame for the whole situation. His budgets (predicting a higher gate than anyone else would of expected), blaming the fan's for not going to games and then washing his hands of things after he built up the huge debt. Agombar seem's to of been the wrong guy for the club... The lies, not paying people when he said, the whole thing with the conference bond... The list goes on.... However, since he failed the fit and proper test and has gone, there seems to be just a few options.... Carry on boycotting each game, seal the fate of the club and have the possible option of a phoenix club ready to launch in a year or so. Probably not at Edgar street and there's no guarantees that will happen. OR Go to the games, show your support for the players and boost the gates. If we manage a high gate tonight... who knows? Maybe some investor will see what a great club HUFC is, how big the gates are compared to other teams in the southern league and may invest a large chunk of cash to get us out of this mess while getting rid of those who are only interested in HUFC for their own non football related gains. Barely any fan's going through the gates only prevents this from happening. If the club still folds, then at least people would be able to enjoy a last few games at Edgar street.[/p][/quote]Just pay as you go and do not buy a season ticket until you know what is factually going on. You need more than just a vague and unsubstantiated comment in the local rag. Obviously the same goes for anyone considering investing into anything that appears to have a future hanging in the balance or a bleak future. Hereford Common Sense
  • Score: 5

9:41am Tue 19 Aug 14

DaveyJonesLocker says...

If you support HUFC, get yourself down edgar street tonight and support them!
If you support HUFC, get yourself down edgar street tonight and support them! DaveyJonesLocker
  • Score: 3

9:43am Tue 19 Aug 14

AndyM442 says...

Until the club demonstrates how it is going to get past the September 1st court date there is no logical reason to purchase a season ticket.

Maybe I'm of a bygone generation, but morally I cannot attend games while so many people have been treated so badly without so much as an apology from the club. John Edwards may be of a different class to Agombar and Co but if he wants to win the fans back then he has to acknowledge the mistakes that have been made - and rectify them.

The club have blamed everyone but themselves for problems over the last two months, a disease they caught from Keyte. Maybe they need to fumigate the boardroom to get rid of the plague!
Until the club demonstrates how it is going to get past the September 1st court date there is no logical reason to purchase a season ticket. Maybe I'm of a bygone generation, but morally I cannot attend games while so many people have been treated so badly without so much as an apology from the club. John Edwards may be of a different class to Agombar and Co but if he wants to win the fans back then he has to acknowledge the mistakes that have been made - and rectify them. The club have blamed everyone but themselves for problems over the last two months, a disease they caught from Keyte. Maybe they need to fumigate the boardroom to get rid of the plague! AndyM442
  • Score: 8

10:47am Tue 19 Aug 14

mizza21 says...

AndyM442 wrote:
mizza21 wrote:
Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest, it's just that the article on this here website where Chris Williams is cosying up to John Hale makes his judgement look questionable.

HUST ought to be impartial and if it's true about investment then where does that leave them? What if the current regime rescue HUFC 1939 Ltd and make a success of it over the next couple of years?

Of course I assume like everyone who has observed their practices that talk of investment is just that, talk.
Moneys is moneys and talk is cheap as has been widely demonstrated by all the guff on these here pages, including mine.
"You are right about one thing though. HUST do seem to have an agenda which they are not completely honest about."

Your quote, 3.37pm. Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest - except for you.
Hmmm. I do seem to be suggesting HUST are less than candid in their machinations. I suppose it is a bit strong. John Hale and his pals do seem quite genuine.

The main issue seems to be, if you want to see football at Edgar Street or you don't really care.
My radar tells me the current owners want to relocate the club and develop the ground. Step one is to get their hands on the leases.
They do this in the background while telling us lies to our faces.
All of their behaviour so far indicates this is their plan.
[quote][p][bold]AndyM442[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mizza21[/bold] wrote: Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest, it's just that the article on this here website where Chris Williams is cosying up to John Hale makes his judgement look questionable. HUST ought to be impartial and if it's true about investment then where does that leave them? What if the current regime rescue HUFC 1939 Ltd and make a success of it over the next couple of years? Of course I assume like everyone who has observed their practices that talk of investment is just that, talk. Moneys is moneys and talk is cheap as has been widely demonstrated by all the guff on these here pages, including mine.[/p][/quote]"You are right about one thing though. HUST do seem to have an agenda which they are not completely honest about." Your quote, 3.37pm. Nobody is saying HUST are dishonest - except for you.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. I do seem to be suggesting HUST are less than candid in their machinations. I suppose it is a bit strong. John Hale and his pals do seem quite genuine. The main issue seems to be, if you want to see football at Edgar Street or you don't really care. My radar tells me the current owners want to relocate the club and develop the ground. Step one is to get their hands on the leases. They do this in the background while telling us lies to our faces. All of their behaviour so far indicates this is their plan. mizza21
  • Score: 1

12:40pm Tue 19 Aug 14

petet25 says...

That's what i'm saying HCS. In truth nobody knows what could or could not happen. Season tickets are of course perhaps not the best idea while the future is uncertain.

What is for certain though is there's a game at Edgar street tonight which could be 1 of the last few chances to be there and support a team
That's what i'm saying HCS. In truth nobody knows what could or could not happen. Season tickets are of course perhaps not the best idea while the future is uncertain. What is for certain though is there's a game at Edgar street tonight which could be 1 of the last few chances to be there and support a team petet25
  • Score: 3

2:03pm Tue 19 Aug 14

dodger3 says...

I ain't going. I will not be treated like flotsam, lied to by a bunch of dodgy people that have ducked and dived and have not been open since day one. Football at grass roots is dying, thanks to 'Sky' the greed of the premier league-its all going to implode. Me, I'm gonna play golf with my mates, have fun with my family and take long walks. Bobby, you go and watch, after all its a free Country, its all about choice. I don't want to be involved with dishonesty, corruption and liars.
I ain't going. I will not be treated like flotsam, lied to by a bunch of dodgy people that have ducked and dived and have not been open since day one. Football at grass roots is dying, thanks to 'Sky' the greed of the premier league-its all going to implode. Me, I'm gonna play golf with my mates, have fun with my family and take long walks. Bobby, you go and watch, after all its a free Country, its all about choice. I don't want to be involved with dishonesty, corruption and liars. dodger3
  • Score: 11

5:36pm Tue 19 Aug 14

poulry says...

Totally agree dodger. These poor folk with rose tinted glasses. Not for one day have the owners been honest with the supporters and now they will pay off those with winding up orders , round up the creditors and formulate a long term plan while they put as little money as possible into the club and work on the agenda to development both ends of the ground. The current directors are not football people or even from this
area. They've cleverly masterminded this. You will not see Football League football ever again in our city. A very sad time. Rip hufc 1939.
Totally agree dodger. These poor folk with rose tinted glasses. Not for one day have the owners been honest with the supporters and now they will pay off those with winding up orders , round up the creditors and formulate a long term plan while they put as little money as possible into the club and work on the agenda to development both ends of the ground. The current directors are not football people or even from this area. They've cleverly masterminded this. You will not see Football League football ever again in our city. A very sad time. Rip hufc 1939. poulry
  • Score: 7

10:10pm Tue 19 Aug 14

petet25 says...

Far from the point... "Rose tinted glasses" ? what?

I (myself) anyway have seen all the evidence from this. It's not about supporting or not supporting the regime... In some ways it can be seen as too late for that.

The point is about seeing a last few possible games at Edgar street.

Either the extra fans do nothing to stop the situation with being wound up or extra fans brings extra investment to the table who may not be as bad as the previous few in charge at the top.

Nobody would invest in any football team without a financial gain... You wouldn't expect someone to pay £10 for something and then sell it for 50p a day later would you? So if new investors come in, it has to be about the cash.

Redevelopment = Bad as we all know, and people in it for their own gains. However with the gates boosted, whats to say someone wont see HUFC as a worthy investment for the football side.... Because the fan's are there to cover the cost with admission and make the investor a profit via the football alone.
Far from the point... "Rose tinted glasses" ? what? I (myself) anyway have seen all the evidence from this. It's not about supporting or not supporting the regime... In some ways it can be seen as too late for that. The point is about seeing a last few possible games at Edgar street. Either the extra fans do nothing to stop the situation with being wound up or extra fans brings extra investment to the table who may not be as bad as the previous few in charge at the top. Nobody would invest in any football team without a financial gain... You wouldn't expect someone to pay £10 for something and then sell it for 50p a day later would you? So if new investors come in, it has to be about the cash. Redevelopment = Bad as we all know, and people in it for their own gains. However with the gates boosted, whats to say someone wont see HUFC as a worthy investment for the football side.... Because the fan's are there to cover the cost with admission and make the investor a profit via the football alone. petet25
  • Score: -2

10:05am Wed 20 Aug 14

HUFC New Boy. says...

Moving to Hereford next week. Still don't know whether to attend games.... If there are any. Might have too do the old leadership thing.... If you are not sure, toss a coin.
Moving to Hereford next week. Still don't know whether to attend games.... If there are any. Might have too do the old leadership thing.... If you are not sure, toss a coin. HUFC New Boy.
  • Score: 1

10:08am Wed 20 Aug 14

dodger3 says...

There are quite a few billionaires putting large amounts of cash into premier league clubs with little chance of financial gain-just a hobby. It is highly improbable that any rich person would invest in the 'Bulls' for financial gain. The 'new lot', one bad apple for another-as soon as they start showing transparancy, better communication skills and a modicum of respect for the fans and the fans intelligence, they may get a few more through the turnstiles.
There are quite a few billionaires putting large amounts of cash into premier league clubs with little chance of financial gain-just a hobby. It is highly improbable that any rich person would invest in the 'Bulls' for financial gain. The 'new lot', one bad apple for another-as soon as they start showing transparancy, better communication skills and a modicum of respect for the fans and the fans intelligence, they may get a few more through the turnstiles. dodger3
  • Score: 5

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