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6:29pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Hereford Common Sense says...

Now there is a possibility for a new football team for the future based in Hereford City. I assume all of the jokers who have been playing at being football bosses will respectfully head off into the sunset with little or no fuss. To quote Lonsdale...."everyth
ing as normal". Some peoples sense of normal isn't everyone's is it?

HCC need to now work with it's community and decide what is best for the city. And if that includes finding a place for Hereford football so be it. Now there ironically could be light at the end of a very long tunnel
Now there is a possibility for a new football team for the future based in Hereford City. I assume all of the jokers who have been playing at being football bosses will respectfully head off into the sunset with little or no fuss. To quote Lonsdale...."everyth ing as normal". Some peoples sense of normal isn't everyone's is it? HCC need to now work with it's community and decide what is best for the city. And if that includes finding a place for Hereford football so be it. Now there ironically could be light at the end of a very long tunnel Hereford Common Sense
  • Score: 21

9:39pm Thu 14 Aug 14

phil Morris says...

Who has had all the monies from the club ?, Knock the place down, and build
something for the City. A nice build to flow with the new market area would be great, the council can have the cash for the scrap at HUFC., Then they can spend the cash on the roads, grass cutting and pot holes.
Who has had all the monies from the club ?, Knock the place down, and build something for the City. A nice build to flow with the new market area would be great, the council can have the cash for the scrap at HUFC., Then they can spend the cash on the roads, grass cutting and pot holes. phil Morris
  • Score: -23

10:24pm Thu 14 Aug 14

adeb64 says...

Todays news that the cva has been rejected leading to the death of Hereford united, feels like one of the family has died. The optimism of watching the lads on Saturday and Tuesday has gone. Those lads who turned out in both games and played there hearts out for hufc, i feel sorry for, despite the negativity and vitriolic abuse that they had suffered, they were magnificent and a credit to the club, hope hust and there followers along with David keyte hang their heads in shame. Some facts for you, David keyte failed to pay players and staff month after month, did he receive the vile abuse that the man who started to pay his debts did " no" he walked away Scott free, the new owners watever you think of them were putting there money where there mouth was and trying to get this club off life support . Well hust and co your wish has been granted, pay no one including the players and staff you hold so dear, who if Tommy agombar hadn't paid them, would still be waiting, you said you would boycott club until they were. They were paid an still you boycotted the club. Birmingham City owner is in prison, there fans never deserted the club and he passed a fit and proper person test, Portsmouth had so called dodgy owners, did their fans desert the club " no" , they carried on turning up in there numbers and changed the club from within instead of killing it.pompey are now fan owned club. Hust you are hypocrites, you and keyte have just killed our club, well you have it bk now, no creditors payed except players and staff, that Tommy agombar paid. For more than a thousand loyal fans who turned up to both games , they now have no team to watch, an by god the team who played in both games, gave fans real optimism for the season ahead, and you and your followers have now killed it, well done and thankyou. So now, nothing until your phoenix club start playing in the park next season, in the bottom division of Herefordshire county league " fantastic" . Cant wait.yes the new owners of the club may not have been everyone's cup of tea , but at least they put there money where their mouth was, where's your money hust, when the club needs it most. Shame on you all, David keyte, hust, bbc Hereford @Worcester for ignoring the silent majority in the ground, and the Hereford times for the same , abandoning the club in its hour of need. May you all hang your heads in shame,.....a meadow ender since 1970.
Todays news that the cva has been rejected leading to the death of Hereford united, feels like one of the family has died. The optimism of watching the lads on Saturday and Tuesday has gone. Those lads who turned out in both games and played there hearts out for hufc, i feel sorry for, despite the negativity and vitriolic abuse that they had suffered, they were magnificent and a credit to the club, hope hust and there followers along with David keyte hang their heads in shame. Some facts for you, David keyte failed to pay players and staff month after month, did he receive the vile abuse that the man who started to pay his debts did " no" he walked away Scott free, the new owners watever you think of them were putting there money where there mouth was and trying to get this club off life support . Well hust and co your wish has been granted, pay no one including the players and staff you hold so dear, who if Tommy agombar hadn't paid them, would still be waiting, you said you would boycott club until they were. They were paid an still you boycotted the club. Birmingham City owner is in prison, there fans never deserted the club and he passed a fit and proper person test, Portsmouth had so called dodgy owners, did their fans desert the club " no" , they carried on turning up in there numbers and changed the club from within instead of killing it.pompey are now fan owned club. Hust you are hypocrites, you and keyte have just killed our club, well you have it bk now, no creditors payed except players and staff, that Tommy agombar paid. For more than a thousand loyal fans who turned up to both games , they now have no team to watch, an by god the team who played in both games, gave fans real optimism for the season ahead, and you and your followers have now killed it, well done and thankyou. So now, nothing until your phoenix club start playing in the park next season, in the bottom division of Herefordshire county league " fantastic" . Cant wait.yes the new owners of the club may not have been everyone's cup of tea , but at least they put there money where their mouth was, where's your money hust, when the club needs it most. Shame on you all, David keyte, hust, bbc Hereford @Worcester for ignoring the silent majority in the ground, and the Hereford times for the same , abandoning the club in its hour of need. May you all hang your heads in shame,.....a meadow ender since 1970. adeb64
  • Score: 6

12:27am Fri 15 Aug 14

Brownface60 says...

Anyone know anything about Alpha Choice Finance Ltd?
Google is wonderful - it shows that the company seems to have been set up last year. The registered office is a flat in a private block at Woodford Green, Essex. The trading address is given as 15 Commercial Road, Paddock Wood, Kent, which is an office above a bank and library, and is home to quite a few other companies.
Oh, and the offices are currently on the market, with at least 2 nearby estate agents (Howard Cundey and Bracketts). All this may well be perfectly OK, of course, but will the sale of Tommy's debts to the new company have any repercussions for the club, those owed money - and the leases?
Anyone know anything about Alpha Choice Finance Ltd? Google is wonderful - it shows that the company seems to have been set up last year. The registered office is a flat in a private block at Woodford Green, Essex. The trading address is given as 15 Commercial Road, Paddock Wood, Kent, which is an office above a bank and library, and is home to quite a few other companies. Oh, and the offices are currently on the market, with at least 2 nearby estate agents (Howard Cundey and Bracketts). All this may well be perfectly OK, of course, but will the sale of Tommy's debts to the new company have any repercussions for the club, those owed money - and the leases? Brownface60
  • Score: 7

12:49am Fri 15 Aug 14

Fickle fan hufc says...

Landsman for liquidator! About time this came to an end. Had hufc fans (and hereford times) not given people with funds such a hard time we might still have a club to support . Instead we have no club and a HUST (and so called fans / protesters outside ground) who go on about buying club even though they had no financial clout or means to support a club with significant debts/financial commitments.
Landsman for liquidator! About time this came to an end. Had hufc fans (and hereford times) not given people with funds such a hard time we might still have a club to support . Instead we have no club and a HUST (and so called fans / protesters outside ground) who go on about buying club even though they had no financial clout or means to support a club with significant debts/financial commitments. Fickle fan hufc
  • Score: -10

1:15am Fri 15 Aug 14

Fickle fan hufc says...

@ hereford times - Rodgers get a grip, stop mixing business with pleasure. Hufc needed support not hysteria
@ hereford times - Rodgers get a grip, stop mixing business with pleasure. Hufc needed support not hysteria Fickle fan hufc
  • Score: -7

5:49am Fri 15 Aug 14

B the B says...

adeb64

Well said. I totally agree with all you have said. I will not support a team run by the HUFT. You were desperate for United to go under, how can any fan wish for that.

Those that wanted the club gone now have your wish, but don't expect a great deal of support, you are no better than the current lot. If HUFC go, and its almost certain, you might as well build on the ground as that will benefit the people of HFd more than 200 people watching amateur football. Edgar Street was the home of HUFC no one else.

I will go and watch another local team and give them my support.
adeb64 Well said. I totally agree with all you have said. I will not support a team run by the HUFT. You were desperate for United to go under, how can any fan wish for that. Those that wanted the club gone now have your wish, but don't expect a great deal of support, you are no better than the current lot. If HUFC go, and its almost certain, you might as well build on the ground as that will benefit the people of HFd more than 200 people watching amateur football. Edgar Street was the home of HUFC no one else. I will go and watch another local team and give them my support. B the B
  • Score: -3

8:26am Fri 15 Aug 14

Chipper Dinosaur says...

Yeah it's all HUST's fault, isn't it? What are they playing at, trying to hold the owners to account? Was it HUST who criminally mis-managed the club? Was it HUST who got up relegated two divisions? Did HUST spend seven years in jail thereby being unfit according to FA rules? The people who blame the trust were happy to sit on their backsides and watch telly whilst the club was plundered.

S
Yeah it's all HUST's fault, isn't it? What are they playing at, trying to hold the owners to account? Was it HUST who criminally mis-managed the club? Was it HUST who got up relegated two divisions? Did HUST spend seven years in jail thereby being unfit according to FA rules? The people who blame the trust were happy to sit on their backsides and watch telly whilst the club was plundered. S Chipper Dinosaur
  • Score: 4

9:44am Fri 15 Aug 14

Fickle fan hufc says...

Has anyone criminally mis-managed the club? Not sure what actual "Criminal offences" have been committed??? Just poor previous management.

The club would already have been dead and buried if Mr A had't come along. It was insolvent!

Its not the fault of HUST.

HUST are fools if they think they could financially support the club in its existing state with that level of debt / cash flow problems.
Has anyone criminally mis-managed the club? Not sure what actual "Criminal offences" have been committed??? Just poor previous management. The club would already have been dead and buried if Mr A had't come along. It was insolvent! Its not the fault of HUST. HUST are fools if they think they could financially support the club in its existing state with that level of debt / cash flow problems. Fickle fan hufc
  • Score: -3

10:10am Fri 15 Aug 14

Densell says...

I would just like to say that I hope those that wished for the club to become insolvent so that they get 'their' club back are now happy that, with the exception of HMRC, there are going to people and businesses who are not going to get paid and who may well end in financial difficulties as a result. While Agombar may not have been the ideal choice, at least he was willing to put money into the club to try and keep it afloat and offer a method of payment to the creditors which, while not perfect, would have seen them paid in full.
I would just like to say that I hope those that wished for the club to become insolvent so that they get 'their' club back are now happy that, with the exception of HMRC, there are going to people and businesses who are not going to get paid and who may well end in financial difficulties as a result. While Agombar may not have been the ideal choice, at least he was willing to put money into the club to try and keep it afloat and offer a method of payment to the creditors which, while not perfect, would have seen them paid in full. Densell
  • Score: 6

10:26am Fri 15 Aug 14

DaveyJonesLocker says...

So now it looks like no one will get paid now,?
Is that what HUST wanted? They couldnt afford to buy the club so they want it to fold so they can start their own ? Well i wont be supporting any new club as quite simply it ISNT HEREFORD UNITED.
BTW What will HUST now call themselves seeing as though there wont be a hereford united? To be fair they dont support the club by the looks anyway.
Ive been to the last two games this season to help SUPPORT OUR CLUB.
ALL OF THAT HISTORY WILL SOON BE GONE ANY NEW CLUB FORMED IS NOT HUFC AND NEVER WILL BE.! so sad
So now it looks like no one will get paid now,? Is that what HUST wanted? They couldnt afford to buy the club so they want it to fold so they can start their own ? Well i wont be supporting any new club as quite simply it ISNT HEREFORD UNITED. BTW What will HUST now call themselves seeing as though there wont be a hereford united? To be fair they dont support the club by the looks anyway. Ive been to the last two games this season to help SUPPORT OUR CLUB. ALL OF THAT HISTORY WILL SOON BE GONE ANY NEW CLUB FORMED IS NOT HUFC AND NEVER WILL BE.! so sad DaveyJonesLocker
  • Score: 9

10:40am Fri 15 Aug 14

B the B says...

Chipper Dinosaur wrote:
Yeah it's all HUST's fault, isn't it? What are they playing at, trying to hold the owners to account? Was it HUST who criminally mis-managed the club? Was it HUST who got up relegated two divisions? Did HUST spend seven years in jail thereby being unfit according to FA rules? The people who blame the trust were happy to sit on their backsides and watch telly whilst the club was plundered.

S
No one is blaming the trust for this mess, but all the demonstrations etc backfired, teams were frightened to play united and sponsors unwilling to get into a free for all with the fans. I didn't sit on my backside, I attended games and supported Hereford United which is what the fans should have done.

Some staff and players did get paid, eventually, but had the trust had their way then no one would have got a penny. The reason we've dropped down the leagues is Ogombar refusing to put the money up front the reason HUFC is going under is down to Keyte and his groupies.
The trust were jumping on the bandwagon saying let us buy it, give us our club back but when the chips are down the Trust don't have the money, yes they want to run it but with no debts. I expect that there would be a few wealthy folk prepared to do that, doesn't stop HUFC being history though does it.
[quote][p][bold]Chipper Dinosaur[/bold] wrote: Yeah it's all HUST's fault, isn't it? What are they playing at, trying to hold the owners to account? Was it HUST who criminally mis-managed the club? Was it HUST who got up relegated two divisions? Did HUST spend seven years in jail thereby being unfit according to FA rules? The people who blame the trust were happy to sit on their backsides and watch telly whilst the club was plundered. S[/p][/quote]No one is blaming the trust for this mess, but all the demonstrations etc backfired, teams were frightened to play united and sponsors unwilling to get into a free for all with the fans. I didn't sit on my backside, I attended games and supported Hereford United which is what the fans should have done. Some staff and players did get paid, eventually, but had the trust had their way then no one would have got a penny. The reason we've dropped down the leagues is Ogombar refusing to put the money up front the reason HUFC is going under is down to Keyte and his groupies. The trust were jumping on the bandwagon saying let us buy it, give us our club back but when the chips are down the Trust don't have the money, yes they want to run it but with no debts. I expect that there would be a few wealthy folk prepared to do that, doesn't stop HUFC being history though does it. B the B
  • Score: 8

11:15am Fri 15 Aug 14

liketoknow says...

You don't pay your debts, you go bust . end of
You don't pay your debts, you go bust . end of liketoknow
  • Score: 4

12:47pm Fri 15 Aug 14

DaveyJonesLocker says...

B the B wrote:
adeb64

Well said. I totally agree with all you have said. I will not support a team run by the HUFT. You were desperate for United to go under, how can any fan wish for that.

Those that wanted the club gone now have your wish, but don't expect a great deal of support, you are no better than the current lot. If HUFC go, and its almost certain, you might as well build on the ground as that will benefit the people of HFd more than 200 people watching amateur football. Edgar Street was the home of HUFC no one else.

I will go and watch another local team and give them my support.
Couldnt have said it better.
[quote][p][bold]B the B[/bold] wrote: adeb64 Well said. I totally agree with all you have said. I will not support a team run by the HUFT. You were desperate for United to go under, how can any fan wish for that. Those that wanted the club gone now have your wish, but don't expect a great deal of support, you are no better than the current lot. If HUFC go, and its almost certain, you might as well build on the ground as that will benefit the people of HFd more than 200 people watching amateur football. Edgar Street was the home of HUFC no one else. I will go and watch another local team and give them my support.[/p][/quote]Couldnt have said it better. DaveyJonesLocker
  • Score: -1

4:33pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Chipper Dinosaur says...

So the logic here is if the fans had let Agombar and associates do as they pleased with the club, everything would have been fine and dandy? But because the trust scrutinised their every move and pressurised the regime to pay employees and ex-employees, the club is going to fold?
So the logic here is if the fans had let Agombar and associates do as they pleased with the club, everything would have been fine and dandy? But because the trust scrutinised their every move and pressurised the regime to pay employees and ex-employees, the club is going to fold? Chipper Dinosaur
  • Score: 0

5:10pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Densell says...

I don't think everything would have been fine and dandy but the situation would not have been a dire as it is now. As previously stated the actions of the Trust appear to have deterred any would be sponsors. They also deterred any pre match friendlies which would have helped the team. The payments that have been made would probably have been made regardless of any pressure from the Trust purely because of the threat of action rom the FA and any legal proceedings. Once Agombar had the club then, regardless of what people thought of him, they should have given the CLUB (not Agombar personally) their support and maybe HUFC would have had a sponsor by now and would have gained the extra time needed to sort out the debt. As it is now, the so called supporters in the Trust will lose everything. Hereford will be kicked out of the Southern League once they are wound up, the Edgar Street ground will then be surplus to requirement and can be sold off by a council who are £200 million in debt for development and the phoenix Hereford football club can go play in a park somewhere, never to play in the upper leagues again because it's a bit hard doing that without a ground to play in.
I don't think everything would have been fine and dandy but the situation would not have been a dire as it is now. As previously stated the actions of the Trust appear to have deterred any would be sponsors. They also deterred any pre match friendlies which would have helped the team. The payments that have been made would probably have been made regardless of any pressure from the Trust purely because of the threat of action rom the FA and any legal proceedings. Once Agombar had the club then, regardless of what people thought of him, they should have given the CLUB (not Agombar personally) their support and maybe HUFC would have had a sponsor by now and would have gained the extra time needed to sort out the debt. As it is now, the so called supporters in the Trust will lose everything. Hereford will be kicked out of the Southern League once they are wound up, the Edgar Street ground will then be surplus to requirement and can be sold off by a council who are £200 million in debt for development and the phoenix Hereford football club can go play in a park somewhere, never to play in the upper leagues again because it's a bit hard doing that without a ground to play in. Densell
  • Score: 4

5:21pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Hereford Common Sense says...

At what point does it become illegal to trade as considered insolvent?
At what point does it become illegal to trade as considered insolvent? Hereford Common Sense
  • Score: 3

6:14pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Fickle fan hufc says...

It's not illegal. Once a company becomes insolvent directors have a duty to creditors - to make sure they are not worsening their position. Directors have to be careful that they are doing "the right thing" otherwise they can be done for wrongful trading (civil not criminal). There are many companies out there that are balance sheet insolvent and continue to trade. Key point is that they can pay debts as they fall due. In two weeks the club will be wound up so it won't be an issue.
It's not illegal. Once a company becomes insolvent directors have a duty to creditors - to make sure they are not worsening their position. Directors have to be careful that they are doing "the right thing" otherwise they can be done for wrongful trading (civil not criminal). There are many companies out there that are balance sheet insolvent and continue to trade. Key point is that they can pay debts as they fall due. In two weeks the club will be wound up so it won't be an issue. Fickle fan hufc
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Fri 15 Aug 14

roger3589 says...

AND WHILST ALL THIS IS HAPPENING

DAVID KEYTE IS SITTING IN HIS IVORY TOWER COUNTING ALL HIS MONEY

I HOPE HE'S GOT SOME THICK BANDAGES ON HIS BURNED FINGERS
AND WHILST ALL THIS IS HAPPENING DAVID KEYTE IS SITTING IN HIS IVORY TOWER COUNTING ALL HIS MONEY I HOPE HE'S GOT SOME THICK BANDAGES ON HIS BURNED FINGERS roger3589
  • Score: 8

8:47pm Fri 15 Aug 14

liketoknow says...

Fickle fan hufc wrote:
It's not illegal. Once a company becomes insolvent directors have a duty to creditors - to make sure they are not worsening their position. Directors have to be careful that they are doing "the right thingI,m sure entering into contracts and trading knowing you are insolvent is illegal . the £200'000+ tax bill would be a bit of a clue.
[quote][p][bold]Fickle fan hufc[/bold] wrote: It's not illegal. Once a company becomes insolvent directors have a duty to creditors - to make sure they are not worsening their position. Directors have to be careful that they are doing "the right thingI,m sure entering into contracts and trading knowing you are insolvent is illegal . the £200'000+ tax bill would be a bit of a clue. liketoknow
  • Score: 2

11:46am Sat 16 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

It is a real shame that the silent majority were not a bit more vocal! HUST managed to do enormous damage to the club's prospects by giving the impression that all the fans were against HUFC and that sponsorship would be ill-advised.

If only a few more people criticising HUST's antagonistic approach had spoken up a few weeks ago.
It is a real shame that the silent majority were not a bit more vocal! HUST managed to do enormous damage to the club's prospects by giving the impression that all the fans were against HUFC and that sponsorship would be ill-advised. If only a few more people criticising HUST's antagonistic approach had spoken up a few weeks ago. Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 4

3:09pm Sat 16 Aug 14

liketoknow says...

I don't think it matters what anyone says or does. this ship has been sinking for a long time . nothing shot of a rich benefactor could save it ..
I don't think it matters what anyone says or does. this ship has been sinking for a long time . nothing shot of a rich benefactor could save it .. liketoknow
  • Score: 6

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