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Fluoride in water is put in the spotlight by health authority

10:08am Friday 9th February 2007

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WELSH Water has been asked to carry out a feasibility study on the possibility and cost of putting fluoride in drinking water in Herefordshire.

Children in the county are said to have the poorest teeth in the West Midlands, where many other authorities have supplied fluoridated water for up to 20 years.

Welsh Water confirmed that West Midlands Strategic Health Authority had requested the study. It would take eight weeks and start in April, at the earliest.

"We are responsible for providing our customers with excellent drinking water and we do not add fluoride to our water. Dosing drinking water with medical additives is a matter for medical authorities,'' it said.

Herefordshire Primary Care Trust has emphasised that whatever the findings, full, county wide consultations will take place before a decision is made.

Dr Frances Howie, director of public health, said the health authority had a statutory duty to consult and discuss with the public before any action was taken and this would be done.

The request from the SHA to look at the situation in Herefordshire follows a recent government Water Bill, which included a new set of statutory arrangements including the risk of litigation against water companies.

One problem facing Welsh Water is the complexity of water supplies in Herefordshire, which come from various sources.

Already lodging an objection to fluoridisation of the county's drinking water is Hereford Times reader Susan Seaman, of Bush Bank.

She has made her views known to both the West Midlands SHA and Herefordshire PCT and describes fluoridisation as a system of excessive state power.

"My main argument against it is, not so much that big agrochem is stuffing its waste down our throats, as the denial of choice of the individual,'' she said.

She urged people to demand a referendum on acceptance of fluoridisation of water supplies by writing to Dr Rashmi Shukla of the Strategic Health Authority at 5, St Philip's Place, Birmingham B3 2PW.


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NYSCOF, USA says...
12:40pm Fri 9 Feb 07

Modern science has proven fluoridation ineffective at reducing tooth decay, is harmful to health and a waste of money and time.

for more info:

New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

Fluoridation News Releases
http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu

Tooth Decay Crises in Fluoridated Areas
http://www.fluoridenews.blogspot.com/

Fluoride Action Network http://www.FluorideAction.Net

Fluoride Journal http://www.FluorideResearch.Org


NYSCOF, USA says...
12:40pm Fri 9 Feb 07

Modern science has proven fluoridation ineffective at reducing tooth decay, is harmful to health and a waste of money and time.

for more info:

New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

Fluoridation News Releases
http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu

Tooth Decay Crises in Fluoridated Areas
http://www.fluoridenews.blogspot.com/

Fluoride Action Network http://www.FluorideAction.Net

Fluoride Journal http://www.FluorideResearch.Org


Robert Williams, Germany says...
3:24pm Sat 10 Feb 07

Flouride especially the waste from chemical fertalizers should be kept out of the water. Apart from the fact that for teeth it has been proven to be detrimental it is also a toxin for the brain, thought to cause amongst others Parkinsons and Altzheimers Dis-Ease or partly responsible. Water as near to pure as one can get is that required by the body any water less than 50 PPM (parts per million) of matter in solution.

Robert Williams, Germany says...
3:24pm Sat 10 Feb 07

Flouride especially the waste from chemical fertalizers should be kept out of the water. Apart from the fact that for teeth it has been proven to be detrimental it is also a toxin for the brain, thought to cause amongst others Parkinsons and Altzheimers Dis-Ease or partly responsible. Water as near to pure as one can get is that required by the body any water less than 50 PPM (parts per million) of matter in solution.

BRIAN JACKSON, COLNE, LANCASHIRE says...
10:50pm Tue 13 Feb 07

Fluoride is a very dangerous, carcinogenic, corrosive and expensive poison. The idea of fluoridation came from bad science 70 years ago but the newest research indicates that aside from the above it does not even protect teeth. We need good diet, good dental hygiene and more dentists, not toxic waste in our water. Join Friends of the Earth, The National Pure Water Association, The Soil Association and local groups across the UK fighting to stop this menace. Say No To Fluoride. For More info call Brian Jackson at Friends of the Earth on 01282-860985

BRIAN JACKSON, COLNE, LANCASHIRE says...
10:50pm Tue 13 Feb 07

Fluoride is a very dangerous, carcinogenic, corrosive and expensive poison. The idea of fluoridation came from bad science 70 years ago but the newest research indicates that aside from the above it does not even protect teeth. We need good diet, good dental hygiene and more dentists, not toxic waste in our water. Join Friends of the Earth, The National Pure Water Association, The Soil Association and local groups across the UK fighting to stop this menace. Say No To Fluoride. For More info call Brian Jackson at Friends of the Earth on 01282-860985

ian upton, London says...
11:12pm Tue 13 Feb 07

The question here is state sponsored medication actually legal?

In the Humans Right act it clearly states it it illegal to be "medicated" against ones agreement.

now All those who object is there any guranteee that those peope wont be medicated or indeed have a medication enforced upon them?

Ian Upton Britain Against FLuoridation Group 07890389801


ian upton, London says...
11:12pm Tue 13 Feb 07

The question here is state sponsored medication actually legal?

In the Humans Right act it clearly states it it illegal to be "medicated" against ones agreement.

now All those who object is there any guranteee that those peope wont be medicated or indeed have a medication enforced upon them?

Ian Upton Britain Against FLuoridation Group 07890389801


Barry Groves, Oxfordshire says...
8:09am Wed 14 Feb 07

I spent 6 years researching the questionable practice of mass medication without consent that is water fluoridation. That culminated in my writing "Fluoride: Drinking Ourselves to Death?". There is no doubt whatsoever that water fluoridation is a dangerous, harmful process.

Just to give one reason: Five years ago, Dr Elise Bassin earned her PhD from Harvard University for her finding that water fluoridation increased the risk of a bone cancer, osteosarcoma, in boys. Although Dr Bassin received her doctorate for this work, her dissertation was suppressed for 4 years. But Bassin's work also confirmed other similar findings:

Because of a large study on rodents and epidemiologic evidence of an increase in osteosarcoma in boys and young men, especially in fluoridated areas, in 1992 Dr. Perry Cohn of the New Jersey Department of Health surveyed its incidence in seven counties of New Jersey relative to water fluoridation. He found that in the fluoridated areas, the incidence of numbers of cases in boys was up to 4.6 times higher than in the unfluoridated areas. In a similar study of three New Jersey municipalities, the figures were up to nearly 7 times as high in the fluoridated areas (the figure that Dr Bassin found). Cohn also found that the general population in those areas was also five times as likely to suffer a cancer.

Osteosarcoma is rare, but it is the leading cancer in childhood.

The question those who would fluoridate us against our wishes is: How do they justify an increased cancer risk?

There are many other arguments against this tyrannical practice.

Barry Groves, Oxfordshire says...
8:09am Wed 14 Feb 07

I spent 6 years researching the questionable practice of mass medication without consent that is water fluoridation. That culminated in my writing "Fluoride: Drinking Ourselves to Death?". There is no doubt whatsoever that water fluoridation is a dangerous, harmful process.

Just to give one reason: Five years ago, Dr Elise Bassin earned her PhD from Harvard University for her finding that water fluoridation increased the risk of a bone cancer, osteosarcoma, in boys. Although Dr Bassin received her doctorate for this work, her dissertation was suppressed for 4 years. But Bassin's work also confirmed other similar findings:

Because of a large study on rodents and epidemiologic evidence of an increase in osteosarcoma in boys and young men, especially in fluoridated areas, in 1992 Dr. Perry Cohn of the New Jersey Department of Health surveyed its incidence in seven counties of New Jersey relative to water fluoridation. He found that in the fluoridated areas, the incidence of numbers of cases in boys was up to 4.6 times higher than in the unfluoridated areas. In a similar study of three New Jersey municipalities, the figures were up to nearly 7 times as high in the fluoridated areas (the figure that Dr Bassin found). Cohn also found that the general population in those areas was also five times as likely to suffer a cancer.

Osteosarcoma is rare, but it is the leading cancer in childhood.

The question those who would fluoridate us against our wishes is: How do they justify an increased cancer risk?

There are many other arguments against this tyrannical practice.

a.Wills, Middlesex says...
10:09am Wed 14 Feb 07

The chemicals used in water fluoridation are fluorosilicic acid which is toxic waste from phosphate fertilizer factories. It's more poisonous than lead & only slightly less so than arsenic. It causes permanent tooth mottling & an increase in hip fracture rates. All medication should be prescribed individually not given to whole communities with no control over the dose received. This goes against all medical ethics.

a.Wills, Middlesex says...
10:09am Wed 14 Feb 07

The chemicals used in water fluoridation are fluorosilicic acid which is toxic waste from phosphate fertilizer factories. It's more poisonous than lead & only slightly less so than arsenic. It causes permanent tooth mottling & an increase in hip fracture rates. All medication should be prescribed individually not given to whole communities with no control over the dose received. This goes against all medical ethics.

Jason, UK says...
12:08pm Wed 14 Feb 07

This needs a concerted effort from concerned responsible people to take action against this change to our provision of water. It needs a stand and a lot of gathering of information on the subject which should be submitted in writing to the council. If this happens it is one more nail in the coffin of our freedom to choose what we have put in either our water or our food. This kind of thing where an issue is rammed down our throats (no pun intended) until we believe it is true, should no longer be allowed to happen. Fight this change all the way.

Jason, UK says...
12:08pm Wed 14 Feb 07

This needs a concerted effort from concerned responsible people to take action against this change to our provision of water. It needs a stand and a lot of gathering of information on the subject which should be submitted in writing to the council. If this happens it is one more nail in the coffin of our freedom to choose what we have put in either our water or our food. This kind of thing where an issue is rammed down our throats (no pun intended) until we believe it is true, should no longer be allowed to happen. Fight this change all the way.

Adrian Hamilton, Fluoridated Dublin says...
1:59pm Wed 14 Feb 07

Fluoridation does NOT work.
For absolute proof go to
www.simplywater.com
then Water & Health
then Fluoride

Adrian Hamilton, Fluoridated Dublin says...
1:59pm Wed 14 Feb 07

Fluoridation does NOT work.
For absolute proof go to
www.simplywater.com
then Water & Health
then Fluoride

Richard Carruthers, Isle of Wight says...
12:50am Thu 15 Feb 07

Fluoride causes disturbance of collagen production, adversely affecting, joint surfaces, connective tissue, skin, bones and, teeth. Developing teeth— visibly demonstrate this disturbance – “dental fluorosis” (DF). Fluorosed (mottled) teeth are identified to be a developmental disorder but labelled as only a “cosmetic defect”. (DF) has been studied extensively, yet dental researchers say that the mechanisms underlying the pathogenesis of DF are not yet understood. So how can it be said that a “developmental disorder” is only a “cosmetic defect”, if the mechanisms are not understood?

Richard Carruthers, Isle of Wight says...
12:50am Thu 15 Feb 07

Fluoride causes disturbance of collagen production, adversely affecting, joint surfaces, connective tissue, skin, bones and, teeth. Developing teeth— visibly demonstrate this disturbance – “dental fluorosis” (DF). Fluorosed (mottled) teeth are identified to be a developmental disorder but labelled as only a “cosmetic defect”. (DF) has been studied extensively, yet dental researchers say that the mechanisms underlying the pathogenesis of DF are not yet understood. So how can it be said that a “developmental disorder” is only a “cosmetic defect”, if the mechanisms are not understood?

Ivor Hueting, East Sussex says...
12:01pm Thu 15 Feb 07

Public water fluoridation is:
1. unethical
2. illegal
3. unwanted
4. innefective
5. dangerous
If anyone wants to know how the whole deception was started in the U.S., read 'The fluoride Deception' by Christopher Bryson (2004, in paperback 2006) - go to the fluoriodealert website for a sample.
Self- appointed but partly government funded, the spreaders of misinformation about fluoride never once question fluoridation under any of the above headings. Everyone in England and Wales is under threat. Wake up! - tell the SHAs to stop it!

Ivor Hueting, East Sussex says...
12:01pm Thu 15 Feb 07

Public water fluoridation is:
1. unethical
2. illegal
3. unwanted
4. innefective
5. dangerous
If anyone wants to know how the whole deception was started in the U.S., read 'The fluoride Deception' by Christopher Bryson (2004, in paperback 2006) - go to the fluoriodealert website for a sample.
Self- appointed but partly government funded, the spreaders of misinformation about fluoride never once question fluoridation under any of the above headings. Everyone in England and Wales is under threat. Wake up! - tell the SHAs to stop it!

Zofia Majak, Australia says...
12:38am Fri 16 Feb 07

I lived in fluoridated Sydney for some 16 years. Since I first moved there from Austria I started to have headaches that were bringing me into nausea, digestive problems, and muscular paralysis. Finally I moved to Central Coast (60 km from Sydney) because water there is not fluoridated. All my health problems disappeared. Many people don’t even know that they are poisoned until they move out of the intoxicated areas. 91% population of NSW has been fluoridated, yet MBF Health Fund claims show 42% increase in children being treated in private hospitals for dental cavities. FLUORIDE treatments increased by 67% proving that they DO NOT WORK! People that still want to enforce fluoride on general population should be treated like the Nazi war criminals.

The government wants to start fluoridating water here and I am trying to stop it. Could you please send me your stories about health problems to zmajak@yahoo.com, so I could send them to our Minister for Health. They treat people in Australia with total contempt, no professional information, just brainwashing.

Zofia Majak, Australia says...
12:38am Fri 16 Feb 07

I lived in fluoridated Sydney for some 16 years. Since I first moved there from Austria I started to have headaches that were bringing me into nausea, digestive problems, and muscular paralysis. Finally I moved to Central Coast (60 km from Sydney) because water there is not fluoridated. All my health problems disappeared. Many people don’t even know that they are poisoned until they move out of the intoxicated areas. 91% population of NSW has been fluoridated, yet MBF Health Fund claims show 42% increase in children being treated in private hospitals for dental cavities. FLUORIDE treatments increased by 67% proving that they DO NOT WORK! People that still want to enforce fluoride on general population should be treated like the Nazi war criminals.

The government wants to start fluoridating water here and I am trying to stop it. Could you please send me your stories about health problems to zmajak@yahoo.com, so I could send them to our Minister for Health. They treat people in Australia with total contempt, no professional information, just brainwashing.

Rosemary Miller, Burnley says...
10:43pm Fri 16 Feb 07

Fluoride should be prescribed by a doctor or dentist, not forced on those who don't need it. How about people with dentures?

Rosemary Miller, Burnley says...
10:43pm Fri 16 Feb 07

Fluoride should be prescribed by a doctor or dentist, not forced on those who don't need it. How about people with dentures?

T.G.Huygens Tholen, Australia says...
11:37pm Fri 16 Feb 07

Have the Authorities forgotten that by putting fluoride in the water they are taking away the freedom of choice of the people. This ofcourse can be rectified at the next election by voting the culprits out and letting them commit Political suicide. LIFE GIVING WATER IS NOT TO BE USED AS A VEHICLE FOR MEDICINE.

T.G.Huygens Tholen, Australia says...
11:37pm Fri 16 Feb 07

Have the Authorities forgotten that by putting fluoride in the water they are taking away the freedom of choice of the people. This ofcourse can be rectified at the next election by voting the culprits out and letting them commit Political suicide. LIFE GIVING WATER IS NOT TO BE USED AS A VEHICLE FOR MEDICINE.

Your sayYour Herefordshire

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