Council chief debate to be held in secret (From Hereford Times)
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Council chief debate to be held in secret
10:53am Thursday 6th September 2012 in News By Bill Tanner
Herefordshire Council's employment panel meets in secret next Thursday to debate the latest developments in the search for a new chief executive or similar senior management position.
The council says the meeting has to go behind closed doors because it is "likely to reveal the identity of an individual."
Current chief executive Chris Bull leaves the council next month.
The employment panel last month put off the search for a successor so other senior management models could be explored.
Comments(36)
silentbull
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12:15pm Thu 6 Sep 12
The council keep promising but Hereford just gets worse.
Lying cheating thieving toerags the lot of them
TwoWheelsGood
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12:21pm Thu 6 Sep 12
Ubique5740
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1:26pm Thu 6 Sep 12
bobby47
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5:46pm Thu 6 Sep 12
My warmest regards to you all.
bobby47
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6:55pm Thu 6 Sep 12
d has touched upon this Social Engineering that we've all been subjected to during the past few Labour Governments. It really has some relevance to the 'now' and the predicament we find ourselves in today. We have no say. They dont listen. We used to be a nation of protestors and we'd openly question issues without fear of being branded some sort of corporate terrorist. Nowadays, we simply take it on the chin, perhaps moan a little and not give the issue a backwards glance.
This arrogance that our Council leaders show toward us is something that we shouldn't just take like some bitter medicine. We've got to rediscover our ability to organise, break cover and protest about this form of illicit behaviour by the Local Authority.
How dare they take this step and then have the neck to tell us that we cannot be involved, its their bloody secret and they know whats best for us.
Parasites, Leeches and Maggots the lot of them. They eat away at our money and asset strip us to the bone. Their crazy, badly thought out decisions are the schemes of incompetetent bungling idiots.
bobby47
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7:24pm Thu 6 Sep 12
Tell them what you think. They wont take any notice of us but they will realise that their bubble is soon to burst.
Come on. Comment. Do it and do it now for yourselves.
My warmest regards to you all.
megilleland
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7:48pm Thu 6 Sep 12
Should be interesting.
Themightyboosh
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12:39pm Fri 7 Sep 12
you have hit the nail on the head
i can see the job ad now
"wanted self serving idiot.
must be able not to listen to public opinion.
must have the finantial accumen of an earthworm.
and the buisness background of a 6 year old.
the ability to dream up stupid scemes is nessasary.
a phd in bulls##t is preferable but we will accept a doctorate in unintellagble
management speak.
Gillian1961
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5:30pm Fri 7 Sep 12
littlewhitebull
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1:00pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Gillian1961 wrote:Allowances and expenses paid to councillors are available on the Herefordshire Council website. Presently: £7244 per year basic.
So chris Bull is stepping down as leader of the council, i wonder if he got a golden hand shake, then there.s Mr Jervis who as been personally been bankrupt more then once, what's the betting he gets the job then the whole of Herefordshire will be bankrupt, They used to put the councillors expenditure in the Hereford times around about April but i have not seen it this year, Then you got Bob mathews on more then one council so he can claim as much money as he can, are money council tax, Then you have all the money that as been wasted talking about The Grid, the By pass, the new cycle route, pot holes,
For a list of all allowances paid by UK councils see the website of the Taxpayers' Alliance.
Most Welsh councils, for example, receive more than £13,000 basic allowance. Powys is an exception - just £11,925 - Monmouthshire £13,638.
Nice work, if you can get elected!
bobby47
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4:02pm Sat 8 Sep 12
They are burrowing tics on my back and I want rid of them and my itch.
To those who ain't commented on this story,Lukio and Refuge, come on we need your help.
I want these parasites to know just how we feel about this issue.
Colin J Marschall
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7:31pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Lukio
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8:50pm Sat 8 Sep 12
I hear your call to arms and agree that we as honest, hardworking Herefordians need to challenge the poor behaviour displayed by our council. They will as you rightly point out, read these stories and threads to fuel their egos.
Why do they keep insisting on secret meetings for important decisions that may shape the future? Why can't there be honesty and transparency? This is the fourth 'secret meeting' publicised on this site in as many months. Something doesn't quite meet the eye.
But what can we do to stop them? We voted them in (well I certainly didn't - I voted IOC which in hindsight was a wasted vote it seems). The only way we can stop them is to vote with our feet next election. And I guarantee most won't.
I really hope, for the future of this county, that HC start engaging those who pay their wages, that they start listening to us, that they become transparent and open and that they realise it's US they are meant to be serving not themselves.
I'm about to give up. Lend us a spade and I'll come and help you dig for Studmarsh.
bobby47
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3:29pm Sun 9 Sep 12
I actually bumped into a local elected councillor recently and he said he had to go. Couldn't chat. He was off to CABINET.
Off to cabinet! I wanted to stab him in the eye with a soft leaded pencil. The arrogance of these fleas. How did we all arrive at a point where they can get elected, get a salary, get expenses, get on one or two other forums to boost their wage and then slip away with twenty K a year.
Its a disgrace . Off to Cabinet. The arrogance of these parasites.
Lukio
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6:14pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Gillian1961
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8:24pm Sun 9 Sep 12
mr.dig
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10:57pm Sun 9 Sep 12
yes ,thats just it.. but what can one do once they are in there?
answers on a post card to hr1 1aa.
bobby47
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1:56pm Mon 10 Sep 12
When they come out of CABINET, drag them into High Town before the screaming mob and ask the local Constable to Tazer them simply for our pleasure.
All done with openness and transparency.
Make them do jobs in the community. Weeding, ridding us of wasp nests, mowing the grass and cutting the toe nails of the elderly. Working in the community and with the community for a better future in our great City.
I have a dream that this can happen.
To all you Parasites, Leeches and Tics that I know are reading our negative and yes, hateful comments about you, repent and change your ways.
littlewhitebull
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3:59pm Mon 10 Sep 12
Gillian1961 wrote:Gillian 1961. Sorry to hear that both you and partner lost your jobs last Christmas - life can be very unfair.
Littlewhitebull, you say they are on £7,244, look at the other comments after yours there are nearer my estimate of the councillors wages, Bob Mathews was on £19.000 five years ago i challenge him and asked how he justified that amount he said well i had to by a new lap top (computer) And the main chap i think his name was ------- Taylor was on £46,000 , My self and my partner both lost our jobs last Christmas with mind out and about transport due to the councils cut backs, the Hypocrites were praising as up six months before because we had so much positive feed back from the clients we pick up, so how can they justify that.
The figure I quoted was the basic allowance available for a Herefordshire councillor - £7,244. This was for the 2011-12 tax year. The only person who served a complete year and did not take any extra for travel,subsistence and for a post of responsibility was Councillor J Woodward who received the £7,244 allowance only.
However, 4 councillors received the following totals: J.Jarvis £41,787; R. Phillips £30,088; A Blackshaw £21,694; P.Price £20,918.
Hope you and your partner join the Taxpayers' Alliance and see just how much money is being wasted at a time of great economic difficulty. Good luck.
Gillian1961
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6:20pm Mon 10 Sep 12
bobby47
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7:45pm Mon 10 Sep 12
bobby47
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8:05pm Mon 10 Sep 12
littlewhitebull
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10:07am Tue 11 Sep 12
Gillian1961 wrote:Good luck in the interview Gillian 1961.
Thanks for your kind remarks Littlewhitebull i had a phone call this morning for a interview for a job, i also had a phone called of someone trying to sell me a share in some lottery i explained i have no money no job in debt at know fault of my own, but there were not listening i even said there would have to join the back of the cue, life is bad at the moment watching theses councillors milking us, then companies trying to get you in to more debt, anyway thanks again
By the way you were right about one councillor receiving vast amounts per year. Over the past 5 years Cllr. Phillips has received: £46,246; £44,246; £44,492; £52,675; £47,650; £30,088.
Our councillors alone cost us £679,356 last year.
And they wonder why we get angry!
Again, very good luck for the future.
Gillian1961
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2:05pm Tue 11 Sep 12
bobby47
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2:19pm Tue 11 Sep 12
Who's for dragging them squeeling from Cabinet into High Town in front of the frenzied mob and make them return all our money so that it can all be spent on good things. Things that are good and well meaning and are not used to fatten up the self serving bloated, fat few that eat away at our wealth and the once strong fabric of our society.
Parasites. Leeches. Fleas. I despise you.
littlewhitebull
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10:15am Wed 12 Sep 12
bobby47 wrote:Bobby 47 - Hi. The figures I quoted are all from the Herefordshire Council website. Last year we paid our councillors the magnificent total of £679,356 for their basic allowances, special responsibility allowances and expenses. If you have the stomach for it - the lists of what we have given our councillors over the past few years make for interesting reading. Don't have too much to eat before reading though! Best wishes.
Sweet loving Jesus. Tie me down and stop me screaming. The figure quoted by Littlewhitebull is scandalous. How on earth did we allow these fleas to do this to us?
Who's for dragging them squeeling from Cabinet into High Town in front of the frenzied mob and make them return all our money so that it can all be spent on good things. Things that are good and well meaning and are not used to fatten up the self serving bloated, fat few that eat away at our wealth and the once strong fabric of our society.
Parasites. Leeches. Fleas. I despise you.
bobby47
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1:47pm Wed 12 Sep 12
You Parasites are reading this and not a single one of you has the guts or honour to add a Posting to defend yourselves. None of you have pride. You are cowards as well as Parasites.
I DARE ONE OF YOU FLEAS TO POST A MESSAGE.
Is there one single flea or Maggot out there that has the guts to explain yourselves and justify why you feed so often upon us, the plebs you govern?
Gillian1961
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2:04pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Ubique5740
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2:26pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Re Bobby47 comments that none of the cabinet members or fellow councillors have replied to this forum would suggest that they agree with what has been said or they are unable to defend the indefensible. I also believe that the silent majority of this fine City agree with the posts.
Bobby47, question, have you a plan B for Pancake Day if the "wise" cllrs decide to sell off the Town Hall?
bobby47
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2:51pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Comrades. Authors and Readers of tripe and drivel, I made my decision.
Enough is enough and talk is cheap.
I'm going covert and my intention is to enter the premises of this secret meeting, keep me head down as they count their money and make their incompetent decisions and then I'm going to reveal myself.
I'm going to make our demands. One, to have the right to jump from any public building of our choosing.
Two, to highlight the desperate plight faced daily by all those kneading dough day in and day out. Three The right to dig for Studmarsh wherever we choose and be allowed to do that digging without some jobsworthy shouting, Clear off you idiot. You'll not find Studmarsh here and finally and perhaps most importantly, I will demand that they end our misery and jump off the top of the Town Hall.
And Comrades, I will not sell you down the river. If there's three things that I hate it's Councillors, Pushers and people who sell people down the river.
Now all I need to know is when and where this meeting is.
Lukio
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3:00pm Wed 12 Sep 12
http://www.herefords
hire.gov.uk/council_
gov_democracy/news/6
2001.asp
Would it even be worth turning up or is this just going to be a lip-service exercise?
TwoWheelsGood
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6:47pm Wed 12 Sep 12
bobby47
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7:01pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Colin J Marschall
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1:13am Thu 13 Sep 12
I live in Ledbury and as it stands now we have lost the ambulance station, the police station looks set to close, the swimming pool needs around £1 mil to repair its roof, HCC are cutting youth funding by 80% which will mean the closure of our youth centre. Out Town Council are basically being forced to take over verge cutting, public toilets and a number of public buildings .. all of which are loss makers for HCC, when the Town Council requested the ability to run and profit from the town carparks they were told no, so our Town council will have to find a huge sum of money to fund the services being foisted onto them by HCC, add to that this bloody stupid council tax reform policy and many in Ledbury will see their council tax bill rise by quite an amount next year .. It isn't just Hereford who are being fleeced by these Councillors, its the whole of the county.
bobby47
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6:46am Thu 13 Sep 12
I'll be sure to add your comments to my list of demands.
Have you a very high Public Building in Ledbury?
bobby47 says...
11:52am Thu 6 Sep 12
Sweet Loving Jesus, what do this Council think we are going to do if we discover their secrets. We aint going to harm the applicants.
None of their activities are a secret to us plebs. We know that this Local Authority are self serving, bloated, arrogant, wealth and job creators for themselves. This aint no secret and it's clearly no secret that another one is coming in to fatten up the payroll.
We in Hereford are doomed. We stumble from one smelly cow pat to another and all is falling apart around us.
The successful applicant will be a person who loves a meeting and speaks in a strange language that only the hirearchy can understand, he or she will be more than happy to work from home, they'll love fine wines and be able to talk endlessly about the subject and they'll have a degree in some obscure subject that will be meaningless to their role but will look impressive on their fat cv.
Tell you what!, when the Council tell the successful applicant, the jobs theirs, keep the salary a secret from them. Dont tell them what they will get in their paypacket. We'll soon see who really wants the job and who wants to help this City get on its feet again.