Bill Wiggin sees off calls for re-selection after expenses row meeting (From Hereford Times)

I think Bill is putting himself before herefordshire. making the same mistake 23 times is deeply embarassing and stupid. On some of the forms the address was crossed out and he still changed it back to the wrong address! Do we want to have the reputation of having the most stupid MP? Not good enough, retire and get someone in who has more upstairs and can be a better representative and not embarass Herefordshire as Wiggin has done.

To Press Officer, NHCA.
After attending the so called 'public' meeting on May 27 at the Con Club I left feeling tremendous sadness at this mockery of an undemocratic meeting.
Sadness that Bill Wiggin chose to blame the fees office for all his ills (though I have to say, I don't think the phantom mortgage allegations should go any further).
Sadness at Wiggin's insensitive flippancy towards those 60 or so poor souls locked out because Wiggin & his staff purposely fixed it so as few could get in as possible by holding it in his home territory, the Con club, instead of more obvious venues like the British Legion hall or the main hall in the leisure centre. Never will I forget his reply to them as they tried to make their voices heard from outside, 'I can't help it if Health & Safety say only 150 are allowed in the building & too many people turn up, I don't have a crystal ball!' And purposely holding it at 4pm when many people would still be at work.
Sad to witness Wiggin clearly demonstrate he & his staff only work for & on behalf of the Conservative Association in N.Hfds.
Sadness at his arrogance, when asked how he morally justified claiming £1,400 a month mortgage payments back on his £900,000 London home, when many of his constituents don't even earn that much in a month, he just said it was within the rules.
Sadness that Wiggin saw nothing inappropriate in Christopher George chairing what was supposed to be a non-partisan public meeting, or the fact George made a party political broadcast (albeit a short one) on behalf of the Tory Party at the end of the meeting.

Sadness that last night I saw no hope. The awful slope of moral decline this once (Great) Britain has been hurtling down these past 30 years (aided & abetted by the odious PC Brigade & the apathy of too many of the electorate) will continue while people such as Wiggin, his mentality & his contempt for democratic process continues to represent us & prosper.
Sad that Wiggin has never felt obliged to hold a public meeting before or take a walk round his constituency towns at any time to listen to the views of those he claims to represent.
Sad that no doubt Wiggin will get in next May, albeit with a reduced majority, so many of the same will still be there in Westminster.
Sad to see democracy thrown out the window last night by Wiggin & his party members (I daresay it would have been the same if he'd been a Lib or Labour MP) because of their gang culture mentality.
Democratic process means equal participation for all. This did not happen on May 27!

Ray Borge.
Raymaline.
58, Buckfield Rd.
Leominster. HR6 8SQ.

raylb50
To: nhca.org.uk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: Do not require a reply to my e-mail to Bill Wiggin.


Hello
I forgot to mention in my original e-mail to Bill Wiggin, your chairman & the rest of the gang members, I do not require a reply to it. It would only contain a load of insincere waffle, anyway. Any replies will be deleted prior to opening.
Many thanks,
Ray Borge.
PS. I have sent a copies to the Hfd Times & Leominster Journal for their letters page. Gosh, I am being thoughtful today, aren't I?
My reply was,





Dear Mr Borge,

Some of your expounding is not without merit and I congratulate you on that part of this missive.

I will take you task on other issues, however. This meeting was arranged and managed by Bill Wiggin. It took a massive effort by The Association to persuade him to do other than be on his own. The reason for The Association desire to be involved was to give fee paying members an input and representation for the money they pay in donations, subscriptions and huge voluntary effort for causes and beliefs they hold dear.

There were many members of the Public present. No favour was granted other than first come first served and I and other Management volunteers, unpaid and unsung people were there to help out and maintain a fair and open meeting. The media circus was the driving force behind some of the losses of decorum but on the whole the temper of the meeting was well maintained. You will also not be aware that efforts made by The Chairman to have a larger venue were rejected.

The Rankin Club is not a Conservative Club in any way other than a historical association with its name. You will find many if not a majority of its members are not Conservative voters, let alone Party members.

Your remarks with regard to your MP are not for me to respond to but I object in the strongest terms your references to his staff and your criticism of The Association. We are all volunteers and spend hours of our time and money supporting our beliefs. We are, like any party activists, not only anxious to support together our beliefs but get off our backsides and graft to further them. The MP is not The Association and we are not his staff.

As for”gang culture mentality" that is offensive and beneath intelligent discussion. More the name calling of the school playground. We join together and work together because on our own we are a grain of sand, together we make beach from which to launch an invasion of collective will.

Finally, "Democratic process means equal participation for all. This did not happen on May 27!” Absolute nonsense. This meeting was orchestrated by The MP from day one and only the democratic input from the Association made it more widely trailed than the newspaper announcements. You were welcome along with many other vociferous and angry members of The Public. In a democracy the will of the majority prevails. At the moment the will of The North Herefordshire Electorate votes in a majority for Conservative values. At election time we campaign to get our values and beliefs forward to win. To date we have a Conservative majority. You may regard yourself as "Independent" or some other leaning, I don't know but history shows how a labour movement defeated the rich mill owners and aristocratic rulers. Then it went into becoming a socialist and communist movement, swinging quite the other way and dragging the best down to the level of the worst. That's human nature, live with it.

Michael Dowding

yeah he saw of calls for re election by not letting anyone in!!!!!

hereford times once again getting it the polar opposite of what actually happend.

all dodgy fraudulent MP's should go now and stop trying to lie their way out of the lies.

I was so so disgusted by the manipulation that went on on Wednesday - I was denied admission to the meeting at 3 45 on 'Health and Safety ' grounds and then sneaked in at 4 o'clock when I had worked out that the magic words "I am a Conservative party member" ensured admission - that I have decided to stand as an Independent in the coming Leominster Town Council elections.
How desperately scared - and corrupt - are the local Conservative association that they tried to pack that meeting?? It truly beggars belief. And it is a Conservative council now approving all and everything the industrial fruit giants demand, thus ensuring that the Herefordshire of the future is to be under plastic. Our representatives have been wined and dined you see... and quite forgotten all about representing the people of this most special and beautiful of counties...

Jim Miller, Leominster

PS: anyone who thinks I might be talking sense, who wants North Herefordshire NOT covered in polytunnels and labour camps paying below the minimum wage, and who feel betrayed by the big parties cosying up to the agrogiants destroying Herefordshire... get in touch:jamesmiller@yo
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We just need to get together to stop this cr*p. Ultimately we're bigger than they are.
JM

best job in the world being an MP at the moment, makes a high ranking job in a world bank look like the poor second option.

again, I dont see bill working for us, he is working for himself and knows only too well that he cannot gain another job that will pay him as greatly as a MP will, thus he wants to stay, for his own reasons, not our.

bill, out!