Hereford United granted safety certificate - but capacity limited to 1,000

Hereford United says it has been granted a safety certificate at its Edgar Street ground.

Hereford United says it has been granted a safety certificate at its Edgar Street ground.

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HEREFORD United has been granted a safety certificate allowing matches to take place at Edgar Street - but half of the ground's stands will be closed off.

Herefordshire Council this afternoon granted the Bulls permission to open the stadium to the public after awarding the club a ground safety certificate which had been withdrawn more than a month ago.

But the ground's capacity will be limited to just 1,000, with both the Len Weston Stand and Blackfriars End closed.

United face St Neots Town at Edgar Street on Saturday.

A council spokesperson said the whole ground wouldn't be open to fans until "all partner agencies involved are satisfied that any outstanding issues have been properly addressed".The council and emergency services, acting in a Safety Advisory Group capacity, have again met with HUFC representatives to discuss the club’s general safety certificate.

The council statement said: "The council can confirm that whilst the club has met a number of statutory requirements surrounding spectator safety at Edgar Street, which will allow the first home game to go ahead on Saturday 9 August, there are certain stipulations attached to the certificate.

"The club will only currently be allowed to play football matches in front of 1,000 spectators using both the Merton Terrace and Merton Stand at Edgar Street, as opposed to a full capacity crowd, until all of the partner agencies involved are satisfied that any outstanding safety issues have been properly addressed."

United chairman Andy Lonsdale told the club's official website he was pleased with the decision.

“We are really pleased to finally get everything in place, it has been a battle to get there, but finally it is all coming together," he said.

"Thank you to the local authorities for their support during the process.

"After a long hard summer for the club and fans we hope that the football will now do the talking."

Hereford was expelled from the Football Conference and demoted two divisions to the Southern Premier after failing to pay all of its football creditors.

 

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4:49pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Herefordian says...

So where does Tommy Agombar fit in, because I am confused to who, what, where & when and who actually owns the club?
So where does Tommy Agombar fit in, because I am confused to who, what, where & when and who actually owns the club? Herefordian
  • Score: 7

4:58pm Thu 7 Aug 14

NOT CONVINCED says...

Tommy's probably recalculating the loss on the little rip off, of HUFC 1939
Tommy's probably recalculating the loss on the little rip off, of HUFC 1939 NOT CONVINCED
  • Score: 10

5:20pm Thu 7 Aug 14

poulry says...

As supporters are boycotting the Club , the maximum number allowed is somewhat optimistic. Most of us are expecting any attendence given out by these cronies to have been suitably manipulated first so that it complies with all the other lies and mis-information we have been given since this regime took over. The peaceful demonstration at 2pm outside the players entrance on Saturday is likely to have more attendees.
As supporters are boycotting the Club , the maximum number allowed is somewhat optimistic. Most of us are expecting any attendence given out by these cronies to have been suitably manipulated first so that it complies with all the other lies and mis-information we have been given since this regime took over. The peaceful demonstration at 2pm outside the players entrance on Saturday is likely to have more attendees. poulry
  • Score: 12

5:31pm Thu 7 Aug 14

NOT CONVINCED says...

FAO Temporary Chairman of HUFC 1939. When you announce your exaggerated attendance on Saturday, remember it now needs to be below 1000.
FAO Temporary Chairman of HUFC 1939. When you announce your exaggerated attendance on Saturday, remember it now needs to be below 1000. NOT CONVINCED
  • Score: 9

5:53pm Thu 7 Aug 14

adeb64 says...

Why are all comments directed at new owners...wen it was David keyte that brought our great club to its knees, making it necessary for club to be sold or fold.i Av been a meadow ender since 1970, and had not heard of tommy agombar before he brought club,but at least he is starting to clear the massive debts that David keyte has run up,which is surely a better option than just idea of winding club up and paying no one. This country used to pride itself on giving people a fair crack of the whip.i was undecided bout going Edgar street Saturday, until i went to husts games at Ledbury and Malvern, which convinced me to go on Saturday and give the guy a chance. 44 years i Av been supporting Hereford home and away,and even tho the players will be unrecognizable, they will be representing Hereford united wearing our Hereford bull crest. Some people should be careful wat they wish for.
Why are all comments directed at new owners...wen it was David keyte that brought our great club to its knees, making it necessary for club to be sold or fold.i Av been a meadow ender since 1970, and had not heard of tommy agombar before he brought club,but at least he is starting to clear the massive debts that David keyte has run up,which is surely a better option than just idea of winding club up and paying no one. This country used to pride itself on giving people a fair crack of the whip.i was undecided bout going Edgar street Saturday, until i went to husts games at Ledbury and Malvern, which convinced me to go on Saturday and give the guy a chance. 44 years i Av been supporting Hereford home and away,and even tho the players will be unrecognizable, they will be representing Hereford united wearing our Hereford bull crest. Some people should be careful wat they wish for. adeb64
  • Score: 2

7:25pm Thu 7 Aug 14

RogerLFC says...

All Southern League grounds have to be at least a 'Grade C' specified ground. Numerous stipulations as you would expect for that grade but one is a 1950 minimum capacity and a second is a requirement that 'It must be possible for spectators to view the match, either standing or seated, for the full length of at least 3 sides of the playing area.' For the 'Chairman' to say (and I quote from above) 'We are really pleased to finally get everything in place' and the back of that seems daft. The ground is currently not meeting the minimum specification. Does he know what the minimum is? And do the Council?
All Southern League grounds have to be at least a 'Grade C' specified ground. Numerous stipulations as you would expect for that grade but one is a 1950 minimum capacity and a second is a requirement that 'It must be possible for spectators to view the match, either standing or seated, for the full length of at least 3 sides of the playing area.' For the 'Chairman' to say (and I quote from above) 'We are really pleased to finally get everything in place' and the back of that seems daft. The ground is currently not meeting the minimum specification. Does he know what the minimum is? And do the Council? RogerLFC
  • Score: 10

7:50pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

adeb64: good point. Keyte has been very quiet and I am surprised the HT hasn't been pushing him for more explanations. I too don't want the club to fold, but how I wish the new owners would keep to their word.
adeb64: good point. Keyte has been very quiet and I am surprised the HT hasn't been pushing him for more explanations. I too don't want the club to fold, but how I wish the new owners would keep to their word. Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 6

7:56pm Thu 7 Aug 14

AylestoneVoice says...

Although I support moves to get rid of Tommy and his gang I do have to ask what the Council etc. are on. The capacity of the ground is lets say 7000 and this season there will not be many more than a tenth of that. Is it that there is not a full stop or date on a bit of paper? What has deteriorated so much since April? Not much I guess - it is just the bureaucrats wielding their pens and egos!
Although I support moves to get rid of Tommy and his gang I do have to ask what the Council etc. are on. The capacity of the ground is lets say 7000 and this season there will not be many more than a tenth of that. Is it that there is not a full stop or date on a bit of paper? What has deteriorated so much since April? Not much I guess - it is just the bureaucrats wielding their pens and egos! AylestoneVoice
  • Score: -7

8:15pm Thu 7 Aug 14

littlewhitebull says...

RogerLFC wrote:
All Southern League grounds have to be at least a 'Grade C' specified ground. Numerous stipulations as you would expect for that grade but one is a 1950 minimum capacity and a second is a requirement that 'It must be possible for spectators to view the match, either standing or seated, for the full length of at least 3 sides of the playing area.' For the 'Chairman' to say (and I quote from above) 'We are really pleased to finally get everything in place' and the back of that seems daft. The ground is currently not meeting the minimum specification. Does he know what the minimum is? And do the Council?
Thanks for the information RogerLFC. I have just looked at the FA website and found the following information regarding 'Grade C' football grounds:
Capacity: 1,950, with potential to increase to 3,000
Pitch Barrier: 1.1m high and 1.83 m away from touchline (ideally 2m). Must be in filled so ball can’t pass through. 0.9m hard standing on all 4 areas of the ground
Technical Area: Same side of pitch, ideally 3m apart and seat 8 people or 4m in length
Floodlights: Average lux of 120 for existing or 180 lux must be provided for new
Turnstiles: 3 required with 0.9m hard standing to all spectator areas.
Spectator Accommodation: Preferably on 2 sides of ground. 500 minimum covered of which 250 must be seated (no more than 2 stands, minimum of 50 per stand). 24 seats allocated to Directors. Also need separate Directors room for hospitality serving minimum 24 people. Separate medical room required, not accessed through changing rooms. Public address system required.
Press Seating: 4 with lights and writing facilities
Toilet within Ground: Male: 4 urinals or equivalent and 2 WC’s. Female: 2WC’s
Players Changing: Existing must be 12m2, with 4 shower heads, 1 wash hand basin, 1 WC. New build 18m2.
Match Officials Changing: Minimum 4m2, 1 shower, 1 WC and 1 wash hand basin. Bell buzzer required. New build 6m2. Provision for both male and female officials required.
[quote][p][bold]RogerLFC[/bold] wrote: All Southern League grounds have to be at least a 'Grade C' specified ground. Numerous stipulations as you would expect for that grade but one is a 1950 minimum capacity and a second is a requirement that 'It must be possible for spectators to view the match, either standing or seated, for the full length of at least 3 sides of the playing area.' For the 'Chairman' to say (and I quote from above) 'We are really pleased to finally get everything in place' and the back of that seems daft. The ground is currently not meeting the minimum specification. Does he know what the minimum is? And do the Council?[/p][/quote]Thanks for the information RogerLFC. I have just looked at the FA website and found the following information regarding 'Grade C' football grounds: Capacity: 1,950, with potential to increase to 3,000 Pitch Barrier: 1.1m high and 1.83 m away from touchline (ideally 2m). Must be in filled so ball can’t pass through. 0.9m hard standing on all 4 areas of the ground Technical Area: Same side of pitch, ideally 3m apart and seat 8 people or 4m in length Floodlights: Average lux of 120 for existing or 180 lux must be provided for new Turnstiles: 3 required with 0.9m hard standing to all spectator areas. Spectator Accommodation: Preferably on 2 sides of ground. 500 minimum covered of which 250 must be seated (no more than 2 stands, minimum of 50 per stand). 24 seats allocated to Directors. Also need separate Directors room for hospitality serving minimum 24 people. Separate medical room required, not accessed through changing rooms. Public address system required. Press Seating: 4 with lights and writing facilities Toilet within Ground: Male: 4 urinals or equivalent and 2 WC’s. Female: 2WC’s Players Changing: Existing must be 12m2, with 4 shower heads, 1 wash hand basin, 1 WC. New build 18m2. Match Officials Changing: Minimum 4m2, 1 shower, 1 WC and 1 wash hand basin. Bell buzzer required. New build 6m2. Provision for both male and female officials required. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 3

8:40pm Thu 7 Aug 14

RogerLFC says...

After today's decision the ground capacity is not even high enough to play in the division below the one HUFC are currently sat in. There doesn't appear to be very much joined up thinking between the Southern League and The Council. Have they spoke to each other? Who knows? There should certainly be a rule that a safety certificate cannot be issued unless the ground/arrangements comply with the FA requirements for the League participated in. Has this all been pushed thru based on the fact everyone knows 1000 would never be reached in two days time? And on the back of some promises that the ground will be up to scratch soonest? All sounds very unsatisfactory to me ...
After today's decision the ground capacity is not even high enough to play in the division below the one HUFC are currently sat in. There doesn't appear to be very much joined up thinking between the Southern League and The Council. Have they spoke to each other? Who knows? There should certainly be a rule that a safety certificate cannot be issued unless the ground/arrangements comply with the FA requirements for the League participated in. Has this all been pushed thru based on the fact everyone knows 1000 would never be reached in two days time? And on the back of some promises that the ground will be up to scratch soonest? All sounds very unsatisfactory to me ... RogerLFC
  • Score: 7

8:52pm Thu 7 Aug 14

poulry says...

Dear adeb74,
For a moment I thought you were either one of the new owners cronies in disguise or have been living on planet zog for the last three months. If you want owners who deliberately got us expelled from the conference and then wouldn't appeal, if you won't a a business that doesn't pay loyal staff or players and then photocopies cheques that they don't issue to creditors to ensure they appease the Southern a League,if you want a Club that employs a "Football Consultant" who lies about his c.v., if you want to support a club who promises a blue chip sponsor and then two weeks later looses its global company sponsor of 24 years, if you want a Chairman who praises the local community football teams for playing friendlies when 14 teams both Football league and local teams decline(great credit to them)... I could go on. Instead I welcome you to read the open letter by Ron Parrot the Clubs historian and club supporter of 55 years. The complete article is on the Bulls News website but here I shall quote part of it.
Quote:
As regards the way ahead, I refuse to support anything that may help the new regime of transient interlopers and firmly believe that our best hope lies in starving them out in a war of attrition. I have long been a firm believer in the Supporters’ Trust taking an active role in the future running of our Club and would urge all supporters not only to join up but to back their boycott of all events at Edgar Street.

This is the way forward and much as it may hurt on a Saturday afternoon, we have to be firm and one day, inevitably, the Club will be ours again!

WE WANT OUR CLUB BACK!

Nuff said. If you"be got any sense you'll do what the Ron and the rest of us are doing ..protesting at 2 pm Saturday...and keep way until we get our club back rather than line the pockets of the new regime who are after one thing. The ground leases!!!!
Dear adeb74, For a moment I thought you were either one of the new owners cronies in disguise or have been living on planet zog for the last three months. If you want owners who deliberately got us expelled from the conference and then wouldn't appeal, if you won't a a business that doesn't pay loyal staff or players and then photocopies cheques that they don't issue to creditors to ensure they appease the Southern a League,if you want a Club that employs a "Football Consultant" who lies about his c.v., if you want to support a club who promises a blue chip sponsor and then two weeks later looses its global company sponsor of 24 years, if you want a Chairman who praises the local community football teams for playing friendlies when 14 teams both Football league and local teams decline(great credit to them)... I could go on. Instead I welcome you to read the open letter by Ron Parrot the Clubs historian and club supporter of 55 years. The complete article is on the Bulls News website but here I shall quote part of it. Quote: As regards the way ahead, I refuse to support anything that may help the new regime of transient interlopers and firmly believe that our best hope lies in starving them out in a war of attrition. I have long been a firm believer in the Supporters’ Trust taking an active role in the future running of our Club and would urge all supporters not only to join up but to back their boycott of all events at Edgar Street. This is the way forward and much as it may hurt on a Saturday afternoon, we have to be firm and one day, inevitably, the Club will be ours again! WE WANT OUR CLUB BACK! Nuff said. If you"be got any sense you'll do what the Ron and the rest of us are doing ..protesting at 2 pm Saturday...and keep way until we get our club back rather than line the pockets of the new regime who are after one thing. The ground leases!!!! poulry
  • Score: 8

9:05pm Thu 7 Aug 14

littlewhitebull says...

RogerLFC wrote:
After today's decision the ground capacity is not even high enough to play in the division below the one HUFC are currently sat in. There doesn't appear to be very much joined up thinking between the Southern League and The Council. Have they spoke to each other? Who knows? There should certainly be a rule that a safety certificate cannot be issued unless the ground/arrangements comply with the FA requirements for the League participated in. Has this all been pushed thru based on the fact everyone knows 1000 would never be reached in two days time? And on the back of some promises that the ground will be up to scratch soonest? All sounds very unsatisfactory to me ...
Good points, RogerLFC.
When you appoint safety 'experts' at midnight the day before you have a safety inspection, the debacle has already occurred.
How incredible that our club has sunk to such depths.
Mind you, we should remember that the members of the new regime are 'football through and through'. Their expertise is quite astounding.
[quote][p][bold]RogerLFC[/bold] wrote: After today's decision the ground capacity is not even high enough to play in the division below the one HUFC are currently sat in. There doesn't appear to be very much joined up thinking between the Southern League and The Council. Have they spoke to each other? Who knows? There should certainly be a rule that a safety certificate cannot be issued unless the ground/arrangements comply with the FA requirements for the League participated in. Has this all been pushed thru based on the fact everyone knows 1000 would never be reached in two days time? And on the back of some promises that the ground will be up to scratch soonest? All sounds very unsatisfactory to me ...[/p][/quote]Good points, RogerLFC. When you appoint safety 'experts' at midnight the day before you have a safety inspection, the debacle has already occurred. How incredible that our club has sunk to such depths. Mind you, we should remember that the members of the new regime are 'football through and through'. Their expertise is quite astounding. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 12

12:05am Fri 8 Aug 14

RogerLFC says...

littlewhitebull wrote:
RogerLFC wrote:
After today's decision the ground capacity is not even high enough to play in the division below the one HUFC are currently sat in. There doesn't appear to be very much joined up thinking between the Southern League and The Council. Have they spoke to each other? Who knows? There should certainly be a rule that a safety certificate cannot be issued unless the ground/arrangements comply with the FA requirements for the League participated in. Has this all been pushed thru based on the fact everyone knows 1000 would never be reached in two days time? And on the back of some promises that the ground will be up to scratch soonest? All sounds very unsatisfactory to me ...
Good points, RogerLFC.
When you appoint safety 'experts' at midnight the day before you have a safety inspection, the debacle has already occurred.
How incredible that our club has sunk to such depths.
Mind you, we should remember that the members of the new regime are 'football through and through'. Their expertise is quite astounding.
Appointing experts at Midnight the day before is just amateur hour stuff ... Can't believe the Council didn't just refuse the Safety Certificate ... The arrangements are a total fudge and contrary to FA requirements ... I hope the peaceful demo on Sat. is noisy and successful ... I been there and done that with LFC a couple of times ... Fan Power does win out ... I've seen it!
[quote][p][bold]littlewhitebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RogerLFC[/bold] wrote: After today's decision the ground capacity is not even high enough to play in the division below the one HUFC are currently sat in. There doesn't appear to be very much joined up thinking between the Southern League and The Council. Have they spoke to each other? Who knows? There should certainly be a rule that a safety certificate cannot be issued unless the ground/arrangements comply with the FA requirements for the League participated in. Has this all been pushed thru based on the fact everyone knows 1000 would never be reached in two days time? And on the back of some promises that the ground will be up to scratch soonest? All sounds very unsatisfactory to me ...[/p][/quote]Good points, RogerLFC. When you appoint safety 'experts' at midnight the day before you have a safety inspection, the debacle has already occurred. How incredible that our club has sunk to such depths. Mind you, we should remember that the members of the new regime are 'football through and through'. Their expertise is quite astounding.[/p][/quote]Appointing experts at Midnight the day before is just amateur hour stuff ... Can't believe the Council didn't just refuse the Safety Certificate ... The arrangements are a total fudge and contrary to FA requirements ... I hope the peaceful demo on Sat. is noisy and successful ... I been there and done that with LFC a couple of times ... Fan Power does win out ... I've seen it! RogerLFC
  • Score: 2

5:47am Fri 8 Aug 14

B the B says...

Clearly the council are playing to their audience. 1000 is a joke, as been mentioned what's happened to the ground while its been shut and not used.
I am fed up to the back teeth with it all now wont go to any matches, ever. I don't think anyone at all linked to HUFC has come out of this in a good light. Other clubs have had dodgy people in charge but the fans still supported the club while trying to get the leadership changed. I've supported United for 40 years but not any more, in any shape or form, as people have said, perhaps we should support another local team and get them up the leagues.
Clearly the council are playing to their audience. 1000 is a joke, as been mentioned what's happened to the ground while its been shut and not used. I am fed up to the back teeth with it all now wont go to any matches, ever. I don't think anyone at all linked to HUFC has come out of this in a good light. Other clubs have had dodgy people in charge but the fans still supported the club while trying to get the leadership changed. I've supported United for 40 years but not any more, in any shape or form, as people have said, perhaps we should support another local team and get them up the leagues. B the B
  • Score: 2

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