Greens bring "big gun" to high stakes by-election battle

Greens want a second seat on Herefordshire Council

Greens want a second seat on Herefordshire Council

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THE Green Party is bringing its biggest gun to a by-election battle in Leominster.

Party leader Natalie Bennett visits the town tomorrow (Tues) to rally local activists looking to take Herefordshire Council’s Leominster South seat.

The outcome of Thursday’s by-election is crucial to the council’s future.

With two of the current 58 seats vacant, the Tory group continues in control as a minority against the combined opposition vote.

If the Tories lose the by-elections in Leominster South and Ledbury, the council is tied at 29-29.

In Leominster, the Greens want to translate their presence on the town council to a second Herefordshire Council seat.

Natalie Bennett will be briefed on the issues the Greens are fighting the by-election on, including plans for 1,500 new homes - - part of a 2,300 home expansion – and the potential for increased traffic congestion.

She will also be shown around Leominster town centre where the Greens say shops are under threat from superstore plans and the community co-operative solar power project at the new Leominster primary school.

Five candidates are fighting the by-election triggered by the death of Tory councillor Roger Hunt after a long illness.
They are:

Jenny Bartlett (Green)

Emma Pardoe (Labour)

Angela Pendleton (Independent)

Liz Portman-Lewis (UKIP)

Wayne Rosser (Conservative)

Voting takes place between 7am and 10pm at the Royal British Legion, South Street, Leominster,  and Ivington Village Hall.

The current make-up of Herefordshire Council is:

• Conservative - 27

Herefordshire Independents - 14

• It's Our County! - 12

• Liberal Democrats - 3

• Vacant - 2

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5:28pm Mon 14 Jul 14

redyoll says...

How strange the Greens are fighting the proposed housing development on the grounds of traffic congestion. The "Green" was very happy to support the 150 house Planning Application in Kingstone at last years Planning Committee Meeting. The Green was not overly concerned about traffic congestion in Kingstone. All things are relative Leominster is a town Kingstone is a rural village with 'C' and unclassified roads and just over 400 houses. This all so smacks of double standards - one rule for one and another for another eh.
How strange the Greens are fighting the proposed housing development on the grounds of traffic congestion. The "Green" was very happy to support the 150 house Planning Application in Kingstone at last years Planning Committee Meeting. The Green was not overly concerned about traffic congestion in Kingstone. All things are relative Leominster is a town Kingstone is a rural village with 'C' and unclassified roads and just over 400 houses. This all so smacks of double standards - one rule for one and another for another eh. redyoll
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Mon 14 Jul 14

redyoll says...

I used to be a Green voter but no not since last year's Planning Meeting. Green they might be but only as long as it suits their own personal agenda - would be Green voters take note.
I used to be a Green voter but no not since last year's Planning Meeting. Green they might be but only as long as it suits their own personal agenda - would be Green voters take note. redyoll
  • Score: 3

8:41pm Mon 14 Jul 14

AylestoneVoice says...

I bet the crowds will be out to meet Natalie (who??)
I bet the crowds will be out to meet Natalie (who??) AylestoneVoice
  • Score: 0

9:43pm Mon 14 Jul 14

amanda_martin says...

I don't really understand the hostility here. Whatever your view of the Green Party, surely the alternative of yet another swivel eyed casuist obsessed with cutting down trees and drivelling on about "jobs and growth" is too horrible to contemplate.

I've got a lot of time for the Greens. I wouldn't expect to agree with everything they say and do but they strike me as having some decency and integrity and could bring some healthy opposition to the cesspool of deceit, corporate lickspittling and self interest that is Herefordshire Council's current Cabinet.

I say vote Green and, Aylestone Voice, I should get yourself on Youtube. Like Felicity Norman, Natalie Bennett is a class act .
I don't really understand the hostility here. Whatever your view of the Green Party, surely the alternative of yet another swivel eyed casuist obsessed with cutting down trees and drivelling on about "jobs and growth" is too horrible to contemplate. I've got a lot of time for the Greens. I wouldn't expect to agree with everything they say and do but they strike me as having some decency and integrity and could bring some healthy opposition to the cesspool of deceit, corporate lickspittling and self interest that is Herefordshire Council's current Cabinet. I say vote Green and, Aylestone Voice, I should get yourself on Youtube. Like Felicity Norman, Natalie Bennett is a class act . amanda_martin
  • Score: 8

11:27pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Mr.Herefordian says...

With all these parties going for victory I see and I hope I'm wrong but there may be a winner from the ruling council group.
The greens, Independants and Labour I would have thought could have seen sence and got together.
Until these ludicrous situation continues we are going to be stuck by a council who are totally incompetent. Most of the Tory group as well as some in other groups are incomers to our county who want to change things and get some expencies, nothing wrong with that if you do something. But fellow Herefordians seem reluctant to get elected so these people get into power and we see the results. Get a grip people and stand in May, although I dought if you can be bothered.
With all these parties going for victory I see and I hope I'm wrong but there may be a winner from the ruling council group. The greens, Independants and Labour I would have thought could have seen sence and got together. Until these ludicrous situation continues we are going to be stuck by a council who are totally incompetent. Most of the Tory group as well as some in other groups are incomers to our county who want to change things and get some expencies, nothing wrong with that if you do something. But fellow Herefordians seem reluctant to get elected so these people get into power and we see the results. Get a grip people and stand in May, although I dought if you can be bothered. Mr.Herefordian
  • Score: 6

6:44am Tue 15 Jul 14

probono says...

Wot no Lib Dums standing ?

I no longer care the colour of our Council, just that we have transparency, openness. honesty, and less greed. Are any of these potential Councillors offering to not claim their expenses and allowances I wonder ?
Wot no Lib Dums standing ? I no longer care the colour of our Council, just that we have transparency, openness. honesty, and less greed. Are any of these potential Councillors offering to not claim their expenses and allowances I wonder ? probono
  • Score: 5

8:14am Tue 15 Jul 14

megilleland says...

The Tories will get back in, caused by the voting being split between five parties. They will get in with a count lower than the combined vote of the opposition, but then this is UK politics, no real representation.
The Tories will get back in, caused by the voting being split between five parties. They will get in with a count lower than the combined vote of the opposition, but then this is UK politics, no real representation. megilleland
  • Score: 6

9:10am Tue 15 Jul 14

amanda_martin says...

probono wrote:
Wot no Lib Dums standing ?

I no longer care the colour of our Council, just that we have transparency, openness. honesty, and less greed. Are any of these potential Councillors offering to not claim their expenses and allowances I wonder ?
This is the point.

That said, I don't think we should equate claiming expenses with dishonesty. Standing for election shouldn't mean being out of pocket and pressuring candidates not to claim expenses simply drives the less affluent out of politics. On the other hand , claiming more than £45k, as Cllr John Jarvis did last year, tells us all we need to know about someone's mindset.
[quote][p][bold]probono[/bold] wrote: Wot no Lib Dums standing ? I no longer care the colour of our Council, just that we have transparency, openness. honesty, and less greed. Are any of these potential Councillors offering to not claim their expenses and allowances I wonder ?[/p][/quote]This is the point. That said, I don't think we should equate claiming expenses with dishonesty. Standing for election shouldn't mean being out of pocket and pressuring candidates not to claim expenses simply drives the less affluent out of politics. On the other hand , claiming more than £45k, as Cllr John Jarvis did last year, tells us all we need to know about someone's mindset. amanda_martin
  • Score: 4

9:25am Tue 15 Jul 14

probono says...

amanda_martin wrote:
probono wrote:
Wot no Lib Dums standing ?

I no longer care the colour of our Council, just that we have transparency, openness. honesty, and less greed. Are any of these potential Councillors offering to not claim their expenses and allowances I wonder ?
This is the point.

That said, I don't think we should equate claiming expenses with dishonesty. Standing for election shouldn't mean being out of pocket and pressuring candidates not to claim expenses simply drives the less affluent out of politics. On the other hand , claiming more than £45k, as Cllr John Jarvis did last year, tells us all we need to know about someone's mindset.
Yes I agree if you are not able to go to your normal job and would lose money as a result or travel a long way in to Brockington, then claim what you are losing. But the so called subsistence and claiming for turning up for a short while at a meeting is no acceptable in my eyes. Some Councillors live off their Council allowances and expenses, and it is not a hobby to fill your retirement years or top up your pension and more.
Incidentally someone has dared to ask to see Councillors' expenses under the Audit when HC had to have their books open for inspection by the public and was refused and told to apply under FOI. Totally unlawful, so whatever is going on ?
[quote][p][bold]amanda_martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]probono[/bold] wrote: Wot no Lib Dums standing ? I no longer care the colour of our Council, just that we have transparency, openness. honesty, and less greed. Are any of these potential Councillors offering to not claim their expenses and allowances I wonder ?[/p][/quote]This is the point. That said, I don't think we should equate claiming expenses with dishonesty. Standing for election shouldn't mean being out of pocket and pressuring candidates not to claim expenses simply drives the less affluent out of politics. On the other hand , claiming more than £45k, as Cllr John Jarvis did last year, tells us all we need to know about someone's mindset.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree if you are not able to go to your normal job and would lose money as a result [very rare these days] or travel a long way in to Brockington, then claim what you are losing. But the so called subsistence and claiming for turning up for a short while at a meeting is no acceptable in my eyes. Some Councillors live off their Council allowances and expenses, and it is not a hobby to fill your retirement years or top up your pension and more. Incidentally someone has dared to ask to see Councillors' expenses under the Audit when HC had to have their books open for inspection by the public and was refused and told to apply under FOI. Totally unlawful, so whatever is going on ? probono
  • Score: 4

11:19am Tue 15 Jul 14

mizza21 says...

amanda_martin wrote:
I don't really understand the hostility here. Whatever your view of the Green Party, surely the alternative of yet another swivel eyed casuist obsessed with cutting down trees and drivelling on about "jobs and growth" is too horrible to contemplate.

I've got a lot of time for the Greens. I wouldn't expect to agree with everything they say and do but they strike me as having some decency and integrity and could bring some healthy opposition to the cesspool of deceit, corporate lickspittling and self interest that is Herefordshire Council's current Cabinet.

I say vote Green and, Aylestone Voice, I should get yourself on Youtube. Like Felicity Norman, Natalie Bennett is a class act .
Fantastic post amanda ....

Anything which shakes the comfortable off of their easy cynical gravy train dishing out nice contracts to their freemason golfing chums and receiving backhanders for their favours and selling the good folk of Hereforshire down the river has to be better.

Meggilelland - I hope you are wrong.
[quote][p][bold]amanda_martin[/bold] wrote: I don't really understand the hostility here. Whatever your view of the Green Party, surely the alternative of yet another swivel eyed casuist obsessed with cutting down trees and drivelling on about "jobs and growth" is too horrible to contemplate. I've got a lot of time for the Greens. I wouldn't expect to agree with everything they say and do but they strike me as having some decency and integrity and could bring some healthy opposition to the cesspool of deceit, corporate lickspittling and self interest that is Herefordshire Council's current Cabinet. I say vote Green and, Aylestone Voice, I should get yourself on Youtube. Like Felicity Norman, Natalie Bennett is a class act .[/p][/quote]Fantastic post amanda .... Anything which shakes the comfortable off of their easy cynical gravy train dishing out nice contracts to their freemason golfing chums and receiving backhanders for their favours and selling the good folk of Hereforshire down the river has to be better. Meggilelland - I hope you are wrong. mizza21
  • Score: 7

12:22pm Tue 15 Jul 14

drewinledbury says...

People complain if they don't see a candidate or feel they being taken for granted. At least the Greens are making an effort.
Ledbury couldn't even muster a UKIP candidate, our candidate is from Weston Beggard and the personal statements of the the Tory candidates for Ledbury and Leominster weren't even written by them (unless they think very, very alike).
IOC and Greens seem to be standing aside in alternate wards to give us a chance to vote the Tories out, good for them.
People complain if they don't see a candidate or feel they being taken for granted. At least the Greens are making an effort. Ledbury couldn't even muster a UKIP candidate, our candidate is from Weston Beggard and the personal statements of the the Tory candidates for Ledbury and Leominster weren't even written by them (unless they think very, very alike). IOC and Greens seem to be standing aside in alternate wards to give us a chance to vote the Tories out, good for them. drewinledbury
  • Score: 10

1:08pm Tue 15 Jul 14

LouisWalsh says...

This is a nice big headline for the green party isn't it! I didn't think this sort of thing was allowed during an election week...
This is a nice big headline for the green party isn't it! I didn't think this sort of thing was allowed during an election week... LouisWalsh
  • Score: -2

1:47pm Tue 15 Jul 14

amanda_martin says...

Probono, I found all the expenses details on Herefordshire Council's website.

http://councillors.h
erefordshire.gov.uk/
ecSDDisplay.aspx?NAM
E=ALLOWANCESFORMEMBE
RS2013to2014

It appears that for 2013-2014, the Golden Trough award went not to Cllr Jarvis but to Cllr Tony Johnson, who claimed £41,454.95. That's a lot of coffee and mileage even for the Leader.

I'm well aware, by the way, that the allowance system is not the same as reimbursement for receiptable expenses. However, shouldn't it still reflect the reimbursement principle and allow councillors to recoup costs reasonably incurred in the course of council business instead of encouraging less fastidious members to claim as much as they can irrespective of what they have actually spent?

Intriguingly the highest Travel and Subsistence allowance went to Cllr Roger Phillips. He claimed £8,216.15 , a whopping £4,320.96 more than the Leader. What has he been eating we wonder?
Probono, I found all the expenses details on Herefordshire Council's website. http://councillors.h erefordshire.gov.uk/ ecSDDisplay.aspx?NAM E=ALLOWANCESFORMEMBE RS2013to2014 It appears that for 2013-2014, the Golden Trough award went not to Cllr Jarvis but to Cllr Tony Johnson, who claimed £41,454.95. That's a lot of coffee and mileage even for the Leader. I'm well aware, by the way, that the allowance system is not the same as reimbursement for receiptable expenses. However, shouldn't it still reflect the reimbursement principle and allow councillors to recoup costs reasonably incurred in the course of council business instead of encouraging less fastidious members to claim as much as they can irrespective of what they have actually spent? Intriguingly the highest Travel and Subsistence allowance went to Cllr Roger Phillips. He claimed £8,216.15 , a whopping £4,320.96 more than the Leader. What has he been eating we wonder? amanda_martin
  • Score: 6

2:06pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mr.Herefordian says...

Come on then mizz you state there are people on the take, name them or give your info to Bill or is this the usual nonsense or better still get elected and confront these alleged law breakers. Don't hold your breath folks.
Come on then mizz you state there are people on the take, name them or give your info to Bill or is this the usual nonsense or better still get elected and confront these alleged law breakers. Don't hold your breath folks. Mr.Herefordian
  • Score: -2

2:28pm Wed 16 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

Having lived under a Green administration In Brighton and Hove for over four years I have to warn you against letting them into power. What on the surface might look like a good idea " ooh the Greens want to protect the environment" infact hides some rather nasty Marxist ideology.

In Brighton and Hove we have seen millions of pounds squandered on vanity projects and cycle lanes that are hardly used, gender neutral toilets and an attitude towards Travellers which has cost over a million pounds in clean up this year already.

One chap was so digusted at the way things were bein run he started a company that produces chamber pots with the faces of politicians at the bottom. They are called gzunder.com

However you choose to vote, make sure you read the manifesto first. The Green one has very little environmental content, concerning itself with important things like no page three.

Many people in Brighton voted with their hearts not their heads and as a consequence have seen pollution levels rise and recycling levels drop through the floor. You have been warned!
Having lived under a Green administration In Brighton and Hove for over four years I have to warn you against letting them into power. What on the surface might look like a good idea " ooh the Greens want to protect the environment" infact hides some rather nasty Marxist ideology. In Brighton and Hove we have seen millions of pounds squandered on vanity projects and cycle lanes that are hardly used, gender neutral toilets and an attitude towards Travellers which has cost over a million pounds in clean up this year already. One chap was so digusted at the way things were bein run he started a company that produces chamber pots with the faces of politicians at the bottom. They are called gzunder.com However you choose to vote, make sure you read the manifesto first. The Green one has very little environmental content, concerning itself with important things like no page three. Many people in Brighton voted with their hearts not their heads and as a consequence have seen pollution levels rise and recycling levels drop through the floor. You have been warned! We love Red Billy
  • Score: 0

6:19pm Wed 16 Jul 14

harryagain says...

drewinledbury wrote:
People complain if they don't see a candidate or feel they being taken for granted. At least the Greens are making an effort.
Ledbury couldn't even muster a UKIP candidate, our candidate is from Weston Beggard and the personal statements of the the Tory candidates for Ledbury and Leominster weren't even written by them (unless they think very, very alike).
IOC and Greens seem to be standing aside in alternate wards to give us a chance to vote the Tories out, good for them.
Ledbury does have a UKIP candidate.
[quote][p][bold]drewinledbury[/bold] wrote: People complain if they don't see a candidate or feel they being taken for granted. At least the Greens are making an effort. Ledbury couldn't even muster a UKIP candidate, our candidate is from Weston Beggard and the personal statements of the the Tory candidates for Ledbury and Leominster weren't even written by them (unless they think very, very alike). IOC and Greens seem to be standing aside in alternate wards to give us a chance to vote the Tories out, good for them.[/p][/quote]Ledbury does have a UKIP candidate. harryagain
  • Score: -1

10:37am Thu 17 Jul 14

swampy says...

I completely agree with some of the posts above, I think the development at Kingstone is disgusting and the Green Party should not have voted with IOC, who were never going to oppose this as they work very closely with the architects who designed this development !! The Green Party should stand on its own and be more independent as in Leominster they really do care about the town not just with lining their own pockets.
I completely agree with some of the posts above, I think the development at Kingstone is disgusting and the Green Party should not have voted with IOC, who were never going to oppose this as they work very closely with the architects who designed this development !! The Green Party should stand on its own and be more independent as in Leominster they really do care about the town not just with lining their own pockets. swampy
  • Score: 1

12:14pm Thu 17 Jul 14

redyoll says...

Not only work together but also socialise with each other. Hereford is such a small county!
Not only work together but also socialise with each other. Hereford is such a small county! redyoll
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Thu 17 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

swampy wrote:
I completely agree with some of the posts above, I think the development at Kingstone is disgusting and the Green Party should not have voted with IOC, who were never going to oppose this as they work very closely with the architects who designed this development !! The Green Party should stand on its own and be more independent as in Leominster they really do care about the town not just with lining their own pockets.
Regrettably not our experience in Brighton and Hove.
[quote][p][bold]swampy[/bold] wrote: I completely agree with some of the posts above, I think the development at Kingstone is disgusting and the Green Party should not have voted with IOC, who were never going to oppose this as they work very closely with the architects who designed this development !! The Green Party should stand on its own and be more independent as in Leominster they really do care about the town not just with lining their own pockets.[/p][/quote]Regrettably not our experience in Brighton and Hove. We love Red Billy
  • Score: -2

12:36am Fri 18 Jul 14

amanda_martin says...

The Greens have won Leominster South and IOC have taken Ledbury. The wind of change is blowing in .......
The Greens have won Leominster South and IOC have taken Ledbury. The wind of change is blowing in ....... amanda_martin
  • Score: 4

12:41am Fri 18 Jul 14

Cllr Liz Harvey says...

Congratulations to Jenny Bartlett and Hilary Lacey on their victories in Leominster county and town elections. Also to Terry Widdows on his county council seat in Ledbury. IOC group gather ahead of full council tomorrow morning will be fun!
Congratulations to Jenny Bartlett and Hilary Lacey on their victories in Leominster county and town elections. Also to Terry Widdows on his county council seat in Ledbury. IOC group gather ahead of full council tomorrow morning will be fun! Cllr Liz Harvey
  • Score: 3

12:59am Fri 18 Jul 14

Cllr Liz Harvey says...

... but actually the maths on the councillor numbers at county level is more like: Conservatives 27, IOC 14, Indy 13, Liberal 3, Other 1
... but actually the maths on the councillor numbers at county level is more like: Conservatives 27, IOC 14, Indy 13, Liberal 3, Other 1 Cllr Liz Harvey
  • Score: -1

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