Grass supremo named after cutbacks storm

Warning sign hidden, says teen driver

Rhys' car after the collision.

The sharp bend sign, obscured by vegetation.

Rhys Evans, who escaped with only minor injuries following the collision.

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GRASS cutting now has its own county council cabinet member.

The decision follows a public petition protesting the plan to reduce grass cutting in Herefordshire from seven to three times a year.

And it comes after a young driver crashed his car into a field because a warning sign ahead of a sharp bend was obscured by long grass.

The roads and transport portfolio handed to Cllr Paul Rone has a brief for “close liaison” with the council’s contract partner Balfour Beatty over delivery of the annual maintenance plan, which includes grass cutting and street cleaning.

Cllr Rone went hands on with his new brief this week having bought a mower with his member’s allowance to work with businessman Aaron Mullen and other volunteers to keep the city’s sports pitches in order.

One pair who would like to see more mowing are Rhys Evans and his friend Jacob Thompson, 19.

They were travelling to Tillington from Hereford in separate cars when Rhys – who has been driving for eight months – left the road.

He had not seen a warning sign ahead of a bend due to long grass and drove his car into a field.

The friends, from Lower Bullingham, had been travelling in convoy when Jacob – who was in front – lost sight of his friend.

“When I went back and saw the car, I thought ‘oh my God he’s dead’,” said Jacob.

“But his worst injury was from a stinging nettle from crawling out,”

After the pair had calmed down, they realised the sign was hidden in the verge.

“I don’t know how he survived it,” Jacob added. “It annoys me that the accident could have been prevented if the sign was visible.”

In a statement, Herefordshire Council said a team from Balfour Beatty Living Places had been dispatched to ensure the warning sign is situated in its correct position and it is not obscured by vegetation.

Council leader Cllr Tony Johnson said the authority would talk to “anyone” who could make a contribution to grass cutting.

“What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,” said Cllr Tony Johnson.

“I’m anxious to address the present situation, but I can’t and won’t bust the budget to do so.”

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10:40am Fri 30 May 14

square1 says...

Nice excuse that one, if I could see the sign I could have slowed down. Not a difficult bend to negotiate. Maybe a little to fast racing his mate ?
Nice excuse that one, if I could see the sign I could have slowed down. Not a difficult bend to negotiate. Maybe a little to fast racing his mate ? square1
  • Score: 32

10:47am Fri 30 May 14

Edna Welthorpe (Mrs) says...

“What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,”

Then it's the fault of the moron who drew the contract up which let us remind ourselves is only a matter of months old.
“What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,” Then it's the fault of the moron who drew the contract up which let us remind ourselves is only a matter of months old. Edna Welthorpe (Mrs)
  • Score: 23

11:19am Fri 30 May 14

TwoWheelsGood says...

Edna Welthorpe (Mrs) wrote:
“What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,”

Then it's the fault of the moron who drew the contract up which let us remind ourselves is only a matter of months old.
Rather, it’s the fault of the councillor who signed it. Did he actually read the contract? I understand these things run to in excess of 1000 pages, written by accountants and are a masterclass in obfuscation.
[quote][p][bold]Edna Welthorpe (Mrs)[/bold] wrote: “What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,” Then it's the fault of the moron who drew the contract up which let us remind ourselves is only a matter of months old.[/p][/quote]Rather, it’s the fault of the councillor who signed it. Did he actually read the contract? I understand these things run to in excess of 1000 pages, written by accountants and are a masterclass in obfuscation. TwoWheelsGood
  • Score: 16

11:21am Fri 30 May 14

TwoWheelsGood says...

square1 wrote:
Nice excuse that one, if I could see the sign I could have slowed down. Not a difficult bend to negotiate. Maybe a little to fast racing his mate ?
Yes, and of course he's never driven around that bend before. Rather a pathetic excuse and equally a pathetic piece of journalism, particularly for the front page.
[quote][p][bold]square1[/bold] wrote: Nice excuse that one, if I could see the sign I could have slowed down. Not a difficult bend to negotiate. Maybe a little to fast racing his mate ?[/p][/quote]Yes, and of course he's never driven around that bend before. Rather a pathetic excuse and equally a pathetic piece of journalism, particularly for the front page. TwoWheelsGood
  • Score: 13

11:27am Fri 30 May 14

x-entricity says...

We pay council tax for what? Getting anything done in this county is virtually impossible. It is time that Herefordshire Council was investigated by it's own Trading Standards department. They are charging but not delivering.
We pay council tax for what? Getting anything done in this county is virtually impossible. It is time that Herefordshire Council was investigated by it's own Trading Standards department. They are charging but not delivering. x-entricity
  • Score: 32

11:52am Fri 30 May 14

mizza21 says...

What cobblers. I would lay a wager that he was exceeding the speed limit and driving irresponsibly.
Whilst it's true that the signs should be visible and the council should sort that out pronto, this young man has just had a valuable life lesson about his driving.I hope he learns from it.

i would imagine the HT journalist probably asked searching questions about how, given he was traveling within the speed limit and paying attention to the road ahead, he managed to end up on his roof and off the road so spectacularly when everyone else who traverses this road manages to negotiate the bend successfully.

It ain't really that overgrown anyway, not to the extent where it obscures the road or the nature of the bend.
Bloomin kids. I hit a lampost when I was a yoof and wrote off my first van. I haven't hit one since. (touch wood)
What cobblers. I would lay a wager that he was exceeding the speed limit and driving irresponsibly. Whilst it's true that the signs should be visible and the council should sort that out pronto, this young man has just had a valuable life lesson about his driving.I hope he learns from it. i would imagine the HT journalist probably asked searching questions about how, given he was traveling within the speed limit and paying attention to the road ahead, he managed to end up on his roof and off the road so spectacularly when everyone else who traverses this road manages to negotiate the bend successfully. It ain't really that overgrown anyway, not to the extent where it obscures the road or the nature of the bend. Bloomin kids. I hit a lampost when I was a yoof and wrote off my first van. I haven't hit one since. (touch wood) mizza21
  • Score: 18

1:21pm Fri 30 May 14

Herefordboy says...

Try driving to the conditions and within the speed limit,not blaming overgrown signs and you may actually live into your twenties.
Try driving to the conditions and within the speed limit,not blaming overgrown signs and you may actually live into your twenties. Herefordboy
  • Score: 20

2:40pm Fri 30 May 14

AylestoneVoice says...

That what it is like nowadays - it is always someone else's fault
That what it is like nowadays - it is always someone else's fault AylestoneVoice
  • Score: 16

2:42pm Fri 30 May 14

probono says...

Sorry Boy Racer, this does not wash with us old hands. You were obviously not concentrating ion the road ahead, perhaps with loud music thumping out of your oversize speakers and a roar from you new enlarged exhausts.
I hope you paid for the damage to the farmer's land and fence.
Sorry Boy Racer, this does not wash with us old hands. You were obviously not concentrating ion the road ahead, perhaps with loud music thumping out of your oversize speakers and a roar from you new enlarged exhausts. I hope you paid for the damage to the farmer's land and fence. probono
  • Score: 18

2:44pm Fri 30 May 14

WYSIATI says...

Jacob, Rhys - just a thought - there are a couple of other bends in the county that don't have warning signs on them - but luckily you will see them as the black flat thing sort of curves around out of sight and what you see are hedges. The sheep, parked cars, horses, bikes and others on the road don't have warning signs either. Go carefully.
Jacob, Rhys - just a thought - there are a couple of other bends in the county that don't have warning signs on them - but luckily you will see them as the black flat thing sort of curves around out of sight and what you see are hedges. The sheep, parked cars, horses, bikes and others on the road don't have warning signs either. Go carefully. WYSIATI
  • Score: 22

3:13pm Fri 30 May 14

littlewhitebull says...

Always drive safely; it's better to be late in this world, rather than early in the next.
Some signs are being obscured by the overgrowth of vegetation. I noticed yesterday that it was possible to go to three places called e,e,and e. It was only when I came right alongside the sign that I realised it was Hay-on-Wye, Kingstone and Dorstone.
I watched some lads playing footie on the King George playing fields. By heck they need to be strong at the moment - the grass is so long!
If the grass gets much longer we'll need search and rescue teams to find lost footballers.
Always drive safely; it's better to be late in this world, rather than early in the next. Some signs are being obscured by the overgrowth of vegetation. I noticed yesterday that it was possible to go to three places called e,e,and e. It was only when I came right alongside the sign that I realised it was Hay-on-Wye, Kingstone and Dorstone. I watched some lads playing footie on the King George playing fields. By heck they need to be strong at the moment - the grass is so long! If the grass gets much longer we'll need search and rescue teams to find lost footballers. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 15

3:53pm Fri 30 May 14

herefordman99 says...

I used to drive that road every day for 6 years, and know that corner very well indeed. In order for him to end up that far into a field, upside down, there is no doubt that speed was an issue. Accident investigation work would prove beyond any reasonable doubt what happened. Main point is that he is not seriously injured, adding to the road statistics of the county.
In my opinion (having been young and reckless once) the fact that he was following his mate leads me to the conclusion that they were racing and he lost control.
I used to drive that road every day for 6 years, and know that corner very well indeed. In order for him to end up that far into a field, upside down, there is no doubt that speed was an issue. Accident investigation work would prove beyond any reasonable doubt what happened. Main point is that he is not seriously injured, adding to the road statistics of the county. In my opinion (having been young and reckless once) the fact that he was following his mate leads me to the conclusion that they were racing and he lost control. herefordman99
  • Score: 17

5:58pm Fri 30 May 14

jarvis 2 says...

TwoWheelsGood wrote:
Edna Welthorpe (Mrs) wrote:
“What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,”

Then it's the fault of the moron who drew the contract up which let us remind ourselves is only a matter of months old.
Rather, it’s the fault of the councillor who signed it. Did he actually read the contract? I understand these things run to in excess of 1000 pages, written by accountants and are a masterclass in obfuscation.
what about the fact they may of signed the wrong peice of paper.
What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,” said Cllr Tony Johnson.

“I’m anxious to address the present situation, but I can’t and won’t bust the budget to do so.”
He won t bust the budget this guy is a morone of the enth degree some time soon there will be a seriouse incident that is conected to all this, and someone may be seriously hurt need emergancy services who won t be able to get through to them due to the bad state of the repairs bb are doing.

All I hope is that it is the lkes of Cllr Tony Johnson his loved ones or someone who was involved with this balfour bettie farce (they were warned about how bad this company were and did not listen) that suffers hurt or even a fatality and not some inosent hard working tax payer.
[quote][p][bold]TwoWheelsGood[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Edna Welthorpe (Mrs)[/bold] wrote: “What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,” Then it's the fault of the moron who drew the contract up which let us remind ourselves is only a matter of months old.[/p][/quote]Rather, it’s the fault of the councillor who signed it. Did he actually read the contract? I understand these things run to in excess of 1000 pages, written by accountants and are a masterclass in obfuscation.[/p][/quote]what about the fact they may of signed the wrong peice of paper. What’s going on is not Balfour Beatty’s fault, they’re doing what we asked of them,” said Cllr Tony Johnson. “I’m anxious to address the present situation, but I can’t and won’t bust the budget to do so.” He won t bust the budget this guy is a morone of the enth degree some time soon there will be a seriouse incident that is conected to all this, and someone may be seriously hurt need emergancy services who won t be able to get through to them due to the bad state of the repairs bb are doing. All I hope is that it is the lkes of Cllr Tony Johnson his loved ones or someone who was involved with this balfour bettie farce (they were warned about how bad this company were and did not listen) that suffers hurt or even a fatality and not some inosent hard working tax payer. jarvis 2
  • Score: 0

8:42pm Fri 30 May 14

flamboyant says...

Herefordshire Council entered into the Balfour Beatty contract in September 2013. I assume that during negotiations for the contract HC told BB what work they required doing and BB said how much it would cost? Therefore if Cllr Johnson is to be believed the decision to not cut the grass was made in Sep 2013? Because if it wasn't and BB were commissioned to do this work then they are surely under contract to cut it? Has Balfour Beatty returned some of the money for grass cutting or we're they never paid to do it in the first place? Tony Johnson keeps saying we have to make cuts to stay in budget! We need to see exactly where the money is being spent! Your figures and your excuses don't add up Mr Johnson! Put a freeze on all new posts! You've done without them so far! Stop inventing new posts at extortionate salaries for staff we don't need and don't pay a single penny more to a Consultant!! Look within your organisation and utilise the skills you have!! You still have a lot more Managers than you need!! If one manager can't manage 20/30 staff then get rid of them! You promise a three tear structure from the bottom to the top to date you have 4, 5 and in some cases 6 levels!!!
Herefordshire Council entered into the Balfour Beatty contract in September 2013. I assume that during negotiations for the contract HC told BB what work they required doing and BB said how much it would cost? Therefore if Cllr Johnson is to be believed the decision to not cut the grass was made in Sep 2013? Because if it wasn't and BB were commissioned to do this work then they are surely under contract to cut it? Has Balfour Beatty returned some of the money for grass cutting or we're they never paid to do it in the first place? Tony Johnson keeps saying we have to make cuts to stay in budget! We need to see exactly where the money is being spent! Your figures and your excuses don't add up Mr Johnson! Put a freeze on all new posts! You've done without them so far! Stop inventing new posts at extortionate salaries for staff we don't need and don't pay a single penny more to a Consultant!! Look within your organisation and utilise the skills you have!! You still have a lot more Managers than you need!! If one manager can't manage 20/30 staff then get rid of them! You promise a three tear structure from the bottom to the top to date you have 4, 5 and in some cases 6 levels!!! flamboyant
  • Score: 12

11:25pm Fri 30 May 14

William Rudd says...

And there endeth the lesson Rhys.
And there endeth the lesson Rhys. William Rudd
  • Score: 2

9:31am Sat 31 May 14

SoAnLoW says...

mizza21 wrote:
What cobblers. I would lay a wager that he was exceeding the speed limit and driving irresponsibly.
Whilst it's true that the signs should be visible and the council should sort that out pronto, this young man has just had a valuable life lesson about his driving.I hope he learns from it.

i would imagine the HT journalist probably asked searching questions about how, given he was traveling within the speed limit and paying attention to the road ahead, he managed to end up on his roof and off the road so spectacularly when everyone else who traverses this road manages to negotiate the bend successfully.

It ain't really that overgrown anyway, not to the extent where it obscures the road or the nature of the bend.
Bloomin kids. I hit a lampost when I was a yoof and wrote off my first van. I haven't hit one since. (touch wood)
Well then if you were a betting man you would just have lost yourself some money, my friend, because he was neither 'exceeding the speed limit', nor 'driving irresponsibly'. Tusk tusk. I do wish people would learn the facts before they toss their opinions around.
[quote][p][bold]mizza21[/bold] wrote: What cobblers. I would lay a wager that he was exceeding the speed limit and driving irresponsibly. Whilst it's true that the signs should be visible and the council should sort that out pronto, this young man has just had a valuable life lesson about his driving.I hope he learns from it. i would imagine the HT journalist probably asked searching questions about how, given he was traveling within the speed limit and paying attention to the road ahead, he managed to end up on his roof and off the road so spectacularly when everyone else who traverses this road manages to negotiate the bend successfully. It ain't really that overgrown anyway, not to the extent where it obscures the road or the nature of the bend. Bloomin kids. I hit a lampost when I was a yoof and wrote off my first van. I haven't hit one since. (touch wood)[/p][/quote]Well then if you were a betting man you would just have lost yourself some money, my friend, because he was neither 'exceeding the speed limit', nor 'driving irresponsibly'. Tusk tusk. I do wish people would learn the facts before they toss their opinions around. SoAnLoW
  • Score: -13

9:33am Sat 31 May 14

SoAnLoW says...

probono wrote:
Sorry Boy Racer, this does not wash with us old hands. You were obviously not concentrating ion the road ahead, perhaps with loud music thumping out of your oversize speakers and a roar from you new enlarged exhausts.
I hope you paid for the damage to the farmer's land and fence.
Ohh this is funny. Have you ever seen this lad's car? More like bits falling off and old complaining engine that threw a paddy over 50mph. Perhaps you 'old hands' should learn the facts before you pass judgement.
[quote][p][bold]probono[/bold] wrote: Sorry Boy Racer, this does not wash with us old hands. You were obviously not concentrating ion the road ahead, perhaps with loud music thumping out of your oversize speakers and a roar from you new enlarged exhausts. I hope you paid for the damage to the farmer's land and fence.[/p][/quote]Ohh this is funny. Have you ever seen this lad's car? More like bits falling off and old complaining engine that threw a paddy over 50mph. Perhaps you 'old hands' should learn the facts before you pass judgement. SoAnLoW
  • Score: -11

9:35am Sat 31 May 14

SoAnLoW says...

WYSIATI wrote:
Jacob, Rhys - just a thought - there are a couple of other bends in the county that don't have warning signs on them - but luckily you will see them as the black flat thing sort of curves around out of sight and what you see are hedges. The sheep, parked cars, horses, bikes and others on the road don't have warning signs either. Go carefully.
But this one did, clearly necessarily. Warning signs have been put there for a reason, and the fact that these boys are trying to do something about making our roads just that little bit safer for OTHER road users is wonderful. Maybe you should be pointing your fingers at those teenage lads who simply cause trouble, rather than these boys who have used their unfortunate situation to try and help others.
[quote][p][bold]WYSIATI[/bold] wrote: Jacob, Rhys - just a thought - there are a couple of other bends in the county that don't have warning signs on them - but luckily you will see them as the black flat thing sort of curves around out of sight and what you see are hedges. The sheep, parked cars, horses, bikes and others on the road don't have warning signs either. Go carefully.[/p][/quote]But this one did, clearly necessarily. Warning signs have been put there for a reason, and the fact that these boys are trying to do something about making our roads just that little bit safer for OTHER road users is wonderful. Maybe you should be pointing your fingers at those teenage lads who simply cause trouble, rather than these boys who have used their unfortunate situation to try and help others. SoAnLoW
  • Score: -9

1:01pm Sat 31 May 14

THE FACTS says...

SoAnLoW wrote:
WYSIATI wrote:
Jacob, Rhys - just a thought - there are a couple of other bends in the county that don't have warning signs on them - but luckily you will see them as the black flat thing sort of curves around out of sight and what you see are hedges. The sheep, parked cars, horses, bikes and others on the road don't have warning signs either. Go carefully.
But this one did, clearly necessarily. Warning signs have been put there for a reason, and the fact that these boys are trying to do something about making our roads just that little bit safer for OTHER road users is wonderful. Maybe you should be pointing your fingers at those teenage lads who simply cause trouble, rather than these boys who have used their unfortunate situation to try and help others.
Presume you are related to these guys?

Might see 'em in next years Darwin Awards
[quote][p][bold]SoAnLoW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WYSIATI[/bold] wrote: Jacob, Rhys - just a thought - there are a couple of other bends in the county that don't have warning signs on them - but luckily you will see them as the black flat thing sort of curves around out of sight and what you see are hedges. The sheep, parked cars, horses, bikes and others on the road don't have warning signs either. Go carefully.[/p][/quote]But this one did, clearly necessarily. Warning signs have been put there for a reason, and the fact that these boys are trying to do something about making our roads just that little bit safer for OTHER road users is wonderful. Maybe you should be pointing your fingers at those teenage lads who simply cause trouble, rather than these boys who have used their unfortunate situation to try and help others.[/p][/quote]Presume you are related to these guys? Might see 'em in next years Darwin Awards THE FACTS
  • Score: -2

2:25pm Sat 31 May 14

Hfdlass45 says...

Assume what you like about the driver and I will add he is not known to me but he is inexperienced and if they were racing how come his friend didn't loose the bend and not only that he would have seen him leave the road as he would probably have been up his tail end but that aside, if he had been an elderly man or woman no doubt they would have been told to get their eye sight checked but it does not excuse the poor positioning of the sign and the failure on the councils part to ensure it could be seen. Even an accident which could rightly or wrongly be down to the long grass will not sway the council. If we all stopped paying our council tax for services it is meant to go towards I'm sure they would act then! How dare they cut services for which we are already paying, how about sacking the people who can't manage our budgets and waste money on high fee consultations when it takes common sense approaches to sort out issues within the county. Other counties have good roads, clean cur verges and tidy estates. Hereford? If I didn't live here would I visit? No it looks run down and unkempt! Hereford council get your act together cause soon our votes will count and you can't run a county how can you contribute to running a country?
Assume what you like about the driver and I will add he is not known to me but he is inexperienced and if they were racing how come his friend didn't loose the bend and not only that he would have seen him leave the road as he would probably have been up his tail end but that aside, if he had been an elderly man or woman no doubt they would have been told to get their eye sight checked but it does not excuse the poor positioning of the sign and the failure on the councils part to ensure it could be seen. Even an accident which could rightly or wrongly be down to the long grass will not sway the council. If we all stopped paying our council tax for services it is meant to go towards I'm sure they would act then! How dare they cut services for which we are already paying, how about sacking the people who can't manage our budgets and waste money on high fee consultations when it takes common sense approaches to sort out issues within the county. Other counties have good roads, clean cur verges and tidy estates. Hereford? If I didn't live here would I visit? No it looks run down and unkempt! Hereford council get your act together cause soon our votes will count and you can't run a county how can you contribute to running a country? Hfdlass45
  • Score: 3

4:27pm Sat 31 May 14

Ubique1 says...

Quote .....Well then if you were a betting man you would just have lost yourself some money, my friend, because he was neither 'exceeding the speed limit', nor 'driving irresponsibly'. Tusk tusk. I do wish people would learn the facts before they toss their opinions around.

Perhaps he was drunk , certainly wasn't driving in a manner that was safe for the conditions , weather , road surface , visibility etc . etc ?

These things happen , I am sure that the driver has learnt a lesson - hindsight is a wonderful thing - we have all been in situations when we have made a wrong decision and learnt from it .
Quote .....Well then if you were a betting man you would just have lost yourself some money, my friend, because he was neither 'exceeding the speed limit', nor 'driving irresponsibly'. Tusk tusk. I do wish people would learn the facts before they toss their opinions around. Perhaps he was drunk , certainly wasn't driving in a manner that was safe for the conditions , weather , road surface , visibility etc . etc ? These things happen , I am sure that the driver has learnt a lesson - hindsight is a wonderful thing - we have all been in situations when we have made a wrong decision and learnt from it . Ubique1
  • Score: 5

5:20pm Sat 31 May 14

steveinleo says...

I've been driving in Herefordshire since passing my driving test back in 1977 and there is one golden rule to driving. It is drive to the conditions on the road and pay attention. I drive on average 20'000 miles a year and have motor cycle and HGV1 licenses too.

This has got to be the lamest excuse to explain why you wrote off a car. Or is it a good way to avoid 6 penalty points on your license for dangerous driving, which would mean re-taking your test.

I don't see that this article was worthy of print or front page. Perhaps the police should investigate just how fast you need to go to roll a car on that bend.

Or was the accident not reported to the police which is another breach of law.

Doh !!!!
I've been driving in Herefordshire since passing my driving test back in 1977 and there is one golden rule to driving. It is drive to the conditions on the road and pay attention. I drive on average 20'000 miles a year and have motor cycle and HGV1 licenses too. This has got to be the lamest excuse to explain why you wrote off a car. Or is it a good way to avoid 6 penalty points on your license for dangerous driving, which would mean re-taking your test. I don't see that this article was worthy of print or front page. Perhaps the police should investigate just how fast you need to go to roll a car on that bend. Or was the accident not reported to the police which is another breach of law. Doh !!!! steveinleo
  • Score: 7

8:01pm Sat 31 May 14

flamboyant says...

We don't know the facts, people are making a judgement here which is very wrong. I am not sure the critics would be quite so critical had this young man been seriously injured or god forbid dead. Thankfully he is neither and a little wiser.

The facts are still the same the sign warning there is a dangerous bend in the road was obscured by overgrown hedgerow/ bushes. If it was necessary to put up a sign warning of a dangerous bend then it should be visible? If it's not dangerous on this bend then why the sign in the first place? Hopefully this young man has done us all a favour and inadvertently fired a warning shot in the Councils direction! Make sure our warning signs are visible before someone is killed!!!

Glad you're ok kiddo drive carefully in future and stay safe...
We don't know the facts, people are making a judgement here which is very wrong. I am not sure the critics would be quite so critical had this young man been seriously injured or god forbid dead. Thankfully he is neither and a little wiser. The facts are still the same the sign warning there is a dangerous bend in the road was obscured by overgrown hedgerow/ bushes. If it was necessary to put up a sign warning of a dangerous bend then it should be visible? If it's not dangerous on this bend then why the sign in the first place? Hopefully this young man has done us all a favour and inadvertently fired a warning shot in the Councils direction! Make sure our warning signs are visible before someone is killed!!! Glad you're ok kiddo drive carefully in future and stay safe... flamboyant
  • Score: 5

9:59pm Sat 31 May 14

Bufton Tufton says...

The two golden rules in driving are, don't drive too close to the vehicle in front leaving at least a two second gap,only a fool breaks the two second rule", and "never drive so fast that you cannot stop well within the distance you can see to be clear". Do that and keep a careful check on the mirrors and you have a reasonable chance of staying safe. Nattering mums on the school run please note!
The two golden rules in driving are, don't drive too close to the vehicle in front leaving at least a two second gap,only a fool breaks the two second rule", and "never drive so fast that you cannot stop well within the distance you can see to be clear". Do that and keep a careful check on the mirrors and you have a reasonable chance of staying safe. Nattering mums on the school run please note! Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 5

9:15pm Sun 1 Jun 14

p157 says...

Hopefully he will learn from this and thankfully no injuries, However overgrown verges will lead to more accidents, but in true british tradition nothing is done until someone has suffered or died, for example the road markings were altered at barons cross several months ago, then a few weeks ago there was a serious collision due to the vague markings, which last week were then altered back to what they were before.
Soon there will be a collision on the A44 at golden cross, I was there yesterday in my van, and looking right towards the Weobley direction it was extremely difficult to see because of overgrown grass. I would have seen even less from a car.
Hopefully he will learn from this and thankfully no injuries, However overgrown verges will lead to more accidents, but in true british tradition nothing is done until someone has suffered or died, for example the road markings were altered at barons cross several months ago, then a few weeks ago there was a serious collision due to the vague markings, which last week were then altered back to what they were before. Soon there will be a collision on the A44 at golden cross, I was there yesterday in my van, and looking right towards the Weobley direction it was extremely difficult to see because of overgrown grass. I would have seen even less from a car. p157
  • Score: 9

9:21am Mon 2 Jun 14

mizza21 says...

SoAnLoW wrote:
mizza21 wrote:
What cobblers. I would lay a wager that he was exceeding the speed limit and driving irresponsibly.
Whilst it's true that the signs should be visible and the council should sort that out pronto, this young man has just had a valuable life lesson about his driving.I hope he learns from it.

i would imagine the HT journalist probably asked searching questions about how, given he was traveling within the speed limit and paying attention to the road ahead, he managed to end up on his roof and off the road so spectacularly when everyone else who traverses this road manages to negotiate the bend successfully.

It ain't really that overgrown anyway, not to the extent where it obscures the road or the nature of the bend.
Bloomin kids. I hit a lampost when I was a yoof and wrote off my first van. I haven't hit one since. (touch wood)
Well then if you were a betting man you would just have lost yourself some money, my friend, because he was neither 'exceeding the speed limit', nor 'driving irresponsibly'. Tusk tusk. I do wish people would learn the facts before they toss their opinions around.
This here comments section is about opinions.
I am glad the boy is OK.

You seem to be suggesting he was driving appropriately and within the speed limit in a car which is not capable of excessive speed and now that they have had this unfortunate experience which was in no way their fault, they are using it to do good for the people of Herefordshire.

Well hats off to them. We need more socially responsible behaviour like this. If only all the kids were so great.
[quote][p][bold]SoAnLoW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mizza21[/bold] wrote: What cobblers. I would lay a wager that he was exceeding the speed limit and driving irresponsibly. Whilst it's true that the signs should be visible and the council should sort that out pronto, this young man has just had a valuable life lesson about his driving.I hope he learns from it. i would imagine the HT journalist probably asked searching questions about how, given he was traveling within the speed limit and paying attention to the road ahead, he managed to end up on his roof and off the road so spectacularly when everyone else who traverses this road manages to negotiate the bend successfully. It ain't really that overgrown anyway, not to the extent where it obscures the road or the nature of the bend. Bloomin kids. I hit a lampost when I was a yoof and wrote off my first van. I haven't hit one since. (touch wood)[/p][/quote]Well then if you were a betting man you would just have lost yourself some money, my friend, because he was neither 'exceeding the speed limit', nor 'driving irresponsibly'. Tusk tusk. I do wish people would learn the facts before they toss their opinions around.[/p][/quote]This here comments section is about opinions. I am glad the boy is OK. You seem to be suggesting he was driving appropriately and within the speed limit in a car which is not capable of excessive speed and now that they have had this unfortunate experience which was in no way their fault, they are using it to do good for the people of Herefordshire. Well hats off to them. We need more socially responsible behaviour like this. If only all the kids were so great. mizza21
  • Score: -1

12:38pm Mon 2 Jun 14

yokelyokel says...

Does anyone know what is in the Balfour Beatty contract regarding grass cutting?
Modern (well negotiated) contracts should specify the outcome (i.e. safety, grass on verges /parks etc to a maximum length given a tolerance), not the input (i.e. number of cuts per year). If the weather is dry and hot for months then the grass will need less cutting - if it is wet it will need more - so to specify a number of cuts is an amateurish way of drawing up a contract. Johnson's comment that BB are doing what they are asked suggests that they have been told how often to cut the grass, not how short to keep it. As other's have asked - who wrote, approved and signed the contract on behalf of the council ? Those people should be answering some questions.
Does anyone know what is in the Balfour Beatty contract regarding grass cutting? Modern (well negotiated) contracts should specify the outcome (i.e. safety, grass on verges /parks etc to a maximum length given a tolerance), not the input (i.e. number of cuts per year). If the weather is dry and hot for months then the grass will need less cutting - if it is wet it will need more - so to specify a number of cuts is an amateurish way of drawing up a contract. Johnson's comment that BB are doing what they are asked suggests that they have been told how often to cut the grass, not how short to keep it. As other's have asked - who wrote, approved and signed the contract on behalf of the council ? Those people should be answering some questions. yokelyokel
  • Score: 7

4:59pm Mon 2 Jun 14

CJM1957 says...

steveinleo wrote:
I've been driving in Herefordshire since passing my driving test back in 1977 and there is one golden rule to driving. It is drive to the conditions on the road and pay attention. I drive on average 20'000 miles a year and have motor cycle and HGV1 licenses too.

This has got to be the lamest excuse to explain why you wrote off a car. Or is it a good way to avoid 6 penalty points on your license for dangerous driving, which would mean re-taking your test.

I don't see that this article was worthy of print or front page. Perhaps the police should investigate just how fast you need to go to roll a car on that bend.

Or was the accident not reported to the police which is another breach of law.

Doh !!!!
There is no requirement to report the accident to the police. The law says you must exchange details, name address reg no. if damage is caused to third party property plus insurance details to any person injured. Only where it is not possible to provide these at the time is it necessary to report it to the police. It appears no-one was injured and if damage was caused to the fence the driver should provide details to the owner.
[quote][p][bold]steveinleo[/bold] wrote: I've been driving in Herefordshire since passing my driving test back in 1977 and there is one golden rule to driving. It is drive to the conditions on the road and pay attention. I drive on average 20'000 miles a year and have motor cycle and HGV1 licenses too. This has got to be the lamest excuse to explain why you wrote off a car. Or is it a good way to avoid 6 penalty points on your license for dangerous driving, which would mean re-taking your test. I don't see that this article was worthy of print or front page. Perhaps the police should investigate just how fast you need to go to roll a car on that bend. Or was the accident not reported to the police which is another breach of law. Doh !!!![/p][/quote]There is no requirement to report the accident to the police. The law says you must exchange details, name address reg no. if damage is caused to third party property plus insurance details to any person injured. Only where it is not possible to provide these at the time is it necessary to report it to the police. It appears no-one was injured and if damage was caused to the fence the driver should provide details to the owner. CJM1957
  • Score: 3

9:32pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Wattsy.no1 says...

Try turning right into the garden centre near Wellinton, vision badly obscured by tall vegetation !!
Try turning right into the garden centre near Wellinton, vision badly obscured by tall vegetation !! Wattsy.no1
  • Score: 0

9:54am Sat 7 Jun 14

pottnow says...

Simply poor driving and poor excuses. If you can see in to a bend and can't see out of it SLOW DOWN! I hope this inexperienced driver has learned a valuable lesson. If not, he will be in the news again very soon.
Simply poor driving and poor excuses. If you can see in to a bend and can't see out of it SLOW DOWN! I hope this inexperienced driver has learned a valuable lesson. If not, he will be in the news again very soon. pottnow
  • Score: 1

4:33pm Sun 8 Jun 14

ARogers says...

Sad, sad, sad. When kids have to find someone else to blame for their mistakes. "Oh please, taxpayers! It was your fault, fix it for me!" He was driving too fast for the conditions and above his experience level. Everyone knows that if you see a curve what to do, you slow down and drive with it, not run out into the field!

About the mowing, why cut ALL the grass? Why not just keep the signs and blind corners clear all year and do major mowing 2 or 3 times like they do here in California? I can't imagine the expense of doing it more than that. Problem solved economically.
Sad, sad, sad. When kids have to find someone else to blame for their mistakes. "Oh please, taxpayers! It was your fault, fix it for me!" He was driving too fast for the conditions and above his experience level. Everyone knows that if you see a curve what to do, you slow down and drive with it, not run out into the field! About the mowing, why cut ALL the grass? Why not just keep the signs and blind corners clear all year and do major mowing 2 or 3 times like they do here in California? I can't imagine the expense of doing it more than that. Problem solved economically. ARogers
  • Score: 1

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