UPDATE: New date set for Old Market opening

Hereford Times: New date set for Old Market opening New date set for Old Market opening

A NEW date has been set for the official opening of Hereford's Old Market development.

Ribbons will be cut and the first shop doors will be opened on May 9.

Debenhams, Waitrose, TK Maxx, and Next were all set to open on April 17, but the opening has been delayed due to the “bad weather”.

Stanhope director Gary Bourne said: "Due to the exceptional weather conditions experienced earlier in the year, and the subsequent impact on the construction works, including the ability to undertake external works, the Old Market will open on Friday May 9.

"This decision has been reached despite accelerated works over the last few weeks and months.

"And, although the development is now set to open a little later than reported, we are still on track to open in advance of the actual contract programme.

"Over the next few weeks, the finishing touches to the paving, planting and car parks, as well as testing and commissioning of services will take place to ensure that customers benefit from a scheme that is of the highest quality when Old Market opens its doors to the public."

 

UPDATE: Contrary to rumour and speculation, Stanhope will not face financial penalties due to the delay.

Opening in May would still be months ahead of the agreed date in the contract programme, at which point any penalties may come into play.

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2:51pm Fri 4 Apr 14

MJallday says...

sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion.
sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion. MJallday
  • Score: 11

3:28pm Fri 4 Apr 14

B the B says...

I would assume that t hey tried to make up the time but couldn't. Still ahead of the contractual time, its looking good.
I would assume that t hey tried to make up the time but couldn't. Still ahead of the contractual time, its looking good. B the B
  • Score: 17

3:37pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Hereford person says...

Yes very informative myallday, negative as many other will be.
Yes very informative myallday, negative as many other will be. Hereford person
  • Score: 1

3:47pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Gillian1961 says...

What s the rush, anyway best to have it finished completely then have some parts open and some not I will not be first in the cue I will let you lot go first and then I can read all the moans and groans on here first before I decide
What s the rush, anyway best to have it finished completely then have some parts open and some not I will not be first in the cue I will let you lot go first and then I can read all the moans and groans on here first before I decide Gillian1961
  • Score: 13

5:04pm Fri 4 Apr 14

The Russian 1 says...

Just as well that we didn't have any snow or freezing conditions during the winter then.
Just as well that we didn't have any snow or freezing conditions during the winter then. The Russian 1
  • Score: 7

5:20pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Ubique1 says...

From the story
Opening in May would still be months ahead of the agreed date in the contract programme, at which point any penalties may come into play....

Just wondering why the HT have not published the "agreed date in the contract ....etc....
From the story Opening in May would still be months ahead of the agreed date in the contract programme, at which point any penalties may come into play.... Just wondering why the HT have not published the "agreed date in the contract ....etc.... Ubique1
  • Score: 21

6:02pm Fri 4 Apr 14

borninhereford says...

MJallday wrote:
sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion.
Yet another pessimist - never positive! We all know you'll be one of the 1st people to walk on that land when it opens, just to 'see what the fuss is about' - its being built, so please stop the negativity. Cheers!!
[quote][p][bold]MJallday[/bold] wrote: sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion.[/p][/quote]Yet another pessimist - never positive! We all know you'll be one of the 1st people to walk on that land when it opens, just to 'see what the fuss is about' - its being built, so please stop the negativity. Cheers!! borninhereford
  • Score: 17

7:37pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Dementinator says...

I think they have done remarkably well, its a huge project and 12 months ago there was pretty much nothing there at all.
We have had terrible wet weather for months on end and its bound to have caused a delay.

I would rather its opened all at once when the cinema is completed etc.

I also think that despite the size of the buildings etc and all the work done, very little disruption has been caused indeed, I drive through Hereford most days and not really had any major problems, no more that you would expect of a city of more than 55,000 people.

Props to the crews and builders...
I think they have done remarkably well, its a huge project and 12 months ago there was pretty much nothing there at all. We have had terrible wet weather for months on end and its bound to have caused a delay. I would rather its opened all at once when the cinema is completed etc. I also think that despite the size of the buildings etc and all the work done, very little disruption has been caused indeed, I drive through Hereford most days and not really had any major problems, no more that you would expect of a city of more than 55,000 people. Props to the crews and builders... Dementinator
  • Score: 26

8:01pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Hereford Voice says...

Rumours that Eli Goulding is to open Debenhams we are being informed are untrue and merely speculation as her sister works at Debenhams in Gloucester. The Hereford Mayor will be opening Waitrose
Rumours that Eli Goulding is to open Debenhams we are being informed are untrue and merely speculation as her sister works at Debenhams in Gloucester. The Hereford Mayor will be opening Waitrose Hereford Voice
  • Score: -12

8:22pm Fri 4 Apr 14

CJM1957 says...

MJallday wrote:
sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion.
Network Rail repaired the Dawlish railway line in 8 weeks. Newmarket a Street has taken 12 weeks so far and their engineers didn't have to contend with tides, landslips and all the other hazards! Poor management from Stanhope.
[quote][p][bold]MJallday[/bold] wrote: sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion.[/p][/quote]Network Rail repaired the Dawlish railway line in 8 weeks. Newmarket a Street has taken 12 weeks so far and their engineers didn't have to contend with tides, landslips and all the other hazards! Poor management from Stanhope. CJM1957
  • Score: -4

11:46pm Fri 4 Apr 14

saidflo says...

Exciting!
Also pleased Stanhope will not be financially penalised for the delay, as the contract being flexible enough to let them do just what they suits them.
Be pleased when it is all finished.
These last weeks brought it home to me. The extra bad traffic congestion caused by Newmarket Street/Blueschool Street being reduced to one lane to help the contractors rush to finish by mid- April was disgusting!!
At the beginning of the year it was promised by the cabinet that two lanes would be kept open to stop jams and to support businesses etc - promise soon forgotten.
Every time I queued I noticed little activity on the road works. Yet the lanes were not re-instated, it was more important to allow the construction of the pavements during daytime hours than to keep traffic congestion down. It proved to me that the council officers couldn't care less about the residents they work for.
This week we had dangerously high UK air pollution - Nitrogen dioxide from cars is a main constituent of this pollution. In Hereford we had EXTRA, thanks to the construction of our beautiful new Boulevard!! Our children and ourselves are all at subject to these high levels of pollution or poison as I think of it.
Thanks for that.
Exciting! Also pleased Stanhope will not be financially penalised for the delay, as the contract being flexible enough to let them do just what they suits them. Be pleased when it is all finished. These last weeks brought it home to me. The extra bad traffic congestion caused by Newmarket Street/Blueschool Street being reduced to one lane to help the contractors rush to finish by mid- April was disgusting!! At the beginning of the year it was promised by the cabinet that two lanes would be kept open to stop jams and to support businesses etc - promise soon forgotten. Every time I queued I noticed little activity on the road works. Yet the lanes were not re-instated, it was more important to allow the construction of the pavements during daytime hours than to keep traffic congestion down. It proved to me that the council officers couldn't care less about the residents they work for. This week we had dangerously high UK air pollution - Nitrogen dioxide from cars is a main constituent of this pollution. In Hereford we had EXTRA, thanks to the construction of our beautiful new Boulevard!! Our children and ourselves are all at subject to these high levels of pollution or poison as I think of it. Thanks for that. saidflo
  • Score: -3

4:32am Sat 5 Apr 14

Grid Knocker says...

P***-ups in breweries, the organisation thereof, comes to mind.

Cllrs Phillips and Jarvis, along with henchmen-in-chief Geof Hughes and Jonathan Bothomley should take all the blame, but will of course remain silent.

I have a wise friend in the construction industry who has been involved with countless £multi-million commercial developments. "Soft openings are what we do" he told me last night, when I outlined the Hereford fiasco. "You just plod on and get it finished; then the big retailers fling open their doors; then you do a fortnight's 'snagging'; then and only then do you let His Worship the Mayor come and cut the ribbon."
P***-ups in breweries, the organisation thereof, comes to mind. Cllrs Phillips and Jarvis, along with henchmen-in-chief Geof Hughes and Jonathan Bothomley should take all the blame, but will of course remain silent. I have a wise friend in the construction industry who has been involved with countless £multi-million commercial developments. "Soft openings are what we do" he told me last night, when I outlined the Hereford fiasco. "You just plod on and get it finished; then the big retailers fling open their doors; then you do a fortnight's 'snagging'; then and only then do you let His Worship the Mayor come and cut the ribbon." Grid Knocker
  • Score: -4

7:03am Sat 5 Apr 14

probono says...

Have you heard about Evesham bridge repairs ? Things get delayed. See story on BBC H&W.Why should a couple of Councillors be blamed for this ? I assume the few grid knockers and moaners will not be shopping there after all their criticism ?
Its because of NIMBYS and moaners from the past that we have traffic delays - they are the few who prevented us having a by-pass. made objection at the Inquiry etc.. Now a distant dream.
Have you heard about Evesham bridge repairs ? Things get delayed. See story on BBC H&W.Why should a couple of Councillors be blamed for this ? I assume the few grid knockers and moaners will not be shopping there after all their criticism ? Its because of NIMBYS and moaners from the past that we have traffic delays - they are the few who prevented us having a by-pass. made objection at the Inquiry etc.. Now a distant dream. probono
  • Score: 17

11:54am Sat 5 Apr 14

Ubique1 says...

Looking at the brochure it looks as if they have sorted out the salt problems on the brickwork !!!
Looking at the brochure it looks as if they have sorted out the salt problems on the brickwork !!! Ubique1
  • Score: 10

5:37pm Sat 5 Apr 14

saidflo says...

Ubique - you having a laugh? Never heard of photo shop?
Notice how they describe the ESG as a "centre" in the brochure?
I went through Newmarket Street a couple of hours ago and most of the salt has AGAIN been cleaned off but still looks crusty, and will come again.
The brochure is aimed at the business shop tenants, puts a brilliant slant on the Cattle market mall and doesn't show the backside view.
probono - of course the council decision makers are to blame!
If blame is to be laid - a pointless exercise unless the process or result improves.
Who planned and progressed all the changes, buildings and roads but that self-same Herefordshire council since 1998? Answering my own question - the council!
Not many Herefordians oppose a well planned bypass, in essence, apart from the costs points of view. The lack of a bypass after many, many years, is not down to objections and moans from local residents. You can't really believe that?! If "they" wanted a by-pass "they" would have had one years ago. The residents campaigned and objected against the ESG development but it was still built. Simple as that, if the lot with power want something enough, they ignore dissension or any other viewpoint and go ahead with it.
Ubique - you having a laugh? Never heard of photo shop? Notice how they describe the ESG as a "centre" in the brochure? I went through Newmarket Street a couple of hours ago and most of the salt has AGAIN been cleaned off but still looks crusty, and will come again. The brochure is aimed at the business shop tenants, puts a brilliant slant on the Cattle market mall and doesn't show the backside view. probono - of course the council decision makers are to blame! If blame is to be laid - a pointless exercise unless the process or result improves. Who planned and progressed all the changes, buildings and roads but that self-same Herefordshire council since 1998? Answering my own question - the council! Not many Herefordians oppose a well planned bypass, in essence, apart from the costs points of view. The lack of a bypass after many, many years, is not down to objections and moans from local residents. You can't really believe that?! If "they" wanted a by-pass "they" would have had one years ago. The residents campaigned and objected against the ESG development but it was still built. Simple as that, if the lot with power want something enough, they ignore dissension or any other viewpoint and go ahead with it. saidflo
  • Score: 8

10:29pm Sat 5 Apr 14

kemorris17 says...

I notice the hereford times also chose to use quite an old photo so it looks like a lot less work has been done than has. Same old moaning hereford people, just realise something needed to happen to actually make Hereford look like a city, development has been needed for a long time!
I notice the hereford times also chose to use quite an old photo so it looks like a lot less work has been done than has. Same old moaning hereford people, just realise something needed to happen to actually make Hereford look like a city, development has been needed for a long time! kemorris17
  • Score: -13

7:40am Sun 6 Apr 14

Ubique1 says...

Saidflo said Ubique- you having a laugh? Never heard of photo shop?

Apologises for the misunderstanding .....I was being flippant !
Saidflo said Ubique- you having a laugh? Never heard of photo shop? Apologises for the misunderstanding .....I was being flippant ! Ubique1
  • Score: -16

1:26pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Ubique1 says...

Saidflo .....re the photo shop , I take my Brownie Box Camera to Boots photo shop to have the film developed ..........that's also a joke my friend .
Saidflo .....re the photo shop , I take my Brownie Box Camera to Boots photo shop to have the film developed ..........that's also a joke my friend . Ubique1
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Sun 6 Apr 14

William Rudd says...

CJM1957 wrote:
MJallday wrote:
sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion.
Network Rail repaired the Dawlish railway line in 8 weeks. Newmarket a Street has taken 12 weeks so far and their engineers didn't have to contend with tides, landslips and all the other hazards! Poor management from Stanhope.
15 Million to repair the railway
[quote][p][bold]CJM1957[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MJallday[/bold] wrote: sorry, don't buy this. if it was "the weather" it would have been announced weeks ago when the bad weather ended. sounds more like incompetence and bad project management (good project management would have allowed for weather conditions) - however this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone concerned, a simple drive by will tell you its weeks if not months from completion.[/p][/quote]Network Rail repaired the Dawlish railway line in 8 weeks. Newmarket a Street has taken 12 weeks so far and their engineers didn't have to contend with tides, landslips and all the other hazards! Poor management from Stanhope.[/p][/quote]15 Million to repair the railway William Rudd
  • Score: 4

9:01pm Sun 6 Apr 14

HfdBecky says...

Hereford Voice reported these new dates for the delay in opening the shopping centre back last week! HT a bit slow on the news...
Hereford Voice reported these new dates for the delay in opening the shopping centre back last week! HT a bit slow on the news... HfdBecky
  • Score: -8

11:37am Mon 7 Apr 14

dplcv37 says...

I cannot believe that they have decided to put a pedestrian crossing on newmarket street no further than 50 yards past the edgar street roundabout??
So when the lights turn red and stop the traffic, the traffic is then going to build up back on the roundabout,where is the logic in these things!!??
I am all for this new development, but does hereford council really think they will attract shoppers from the surrounding area when there is a likely hood that they will be stuck in traffic for at least half of their trip into hereford.
I dont think that TKMaxx shouldve been allowed to move though what a waste of a big premises in the city centre, hereford council should be attracting new outlets into the old market and keeping the old ones in the city centre this will encourage shopping in both areas of the town,
I see FIT is reopening close to the development also??? thought they were closing down because they werent happy with the likes of H&M moving and they have as good as done the same!! Wasnt so much of a closing down sale more of a relocation sale?
I cannot believe that they have decided to put a pedestrian crossing on newmarket street no further than 50 yards past the edgar street roundabout?? So when the lights turn red and stop the traffic, the traffic is then going to build up back on the roundabout,where is the logic in these things!!?? I am all for this new development, but does hereford council really think they will attract shoppers from the surrounding area when there is a likely hood that they will be stuck in traffic for at least half of their trip into hereford. I dont think that TKMaxx shouldve been allowed to move though what a waste of a big premises in the city centre, hereford council should be attracting new outlets into the old market and keeping the old ones in the city centre this will encourage shopping in both areas of the town, I see FIT is reopening close to the development also??? thought they were closing down because they werent happy with the likes of H&M moving and they have as good as done the same!! Wasnt so much of a closing down sale more of a relocation sale? dplcv37
  • Score: 20

3:01pm Mon 7 Apr 14

TwoWheelsGood says...

It is noticeable that the artist's impressions of Newmarket Street submitted with the planning application for the OLM do not show ANY traffic lights - when in fact we now have dozens of the damned things appearing - it doesn't take a genius - or even a highway engineer surely - to see the impact this is going to have on traffic flow? Widemarsh St has been a joy these last few ekes with no traffic lights - no hold ups, no fumes for shop keepers and shoppers alike - too good to be true looking at all the traffic lights going up at this junction. What a mess.
It is noticeable that the artist's impressions of Newmarket Street submitted with the planning application for the OLM do not show ANY traffic lights - when in fact we now have dozens of the damned things appearing - it doesn't take a genius - or even a highway engineer surely - to see the impact this is going to have on traffic flow? Widemarsh St has been a joy these last few ekes with no traffic lights - no hold ups, no fumes for shop keepers and shoppers alike - too good to be true looking at all the traffic lights going up at this junction. What a mess. TwoWheelsGood
  • Score: 6

6:44pm Mon 7 Apr 14

saidflo says...

Just cycled through Newmarket Street, still one lane on part of it - very tricky, slow and dangerous as usual!
Some loopy doopy gang of traffic-lightophiles work our streets. I also noticed the artists impression of Widemarsh Boulevard was traffic light-less.
They are now everywhere, millions of the things. Did the manufacturers have a BOGOF?

Apologies Ubique - hehehe :D
Just cycled through Newmarket Street, still one lane on part of it - very tricky, slow and dangerous as usual! Some loopy doopy gang of traffic-lightophiles work our streets. I also noticed the artists impression of Widemarsh Boulevard was traffic light-less. They are now everywhere, millions of the things. Did the manufacturers have a BOGOF? Apologies Ubique - hehehe :D saidflo
  • Score: 6

1:49am Wed 9 Apr 14

Major disaster says...

On the traffic light issue. I thought the idea was to have a shared space where traffic and pedestrians coexisted in harmony to give a Parisian boulevard feel. With more traffic lights it feels more like Central London. Why oh why does this city seem to buy all the excess traffic lights in the country. Also having a pedestrian crossing near to a roundabout is a disaster waiting to happen. C'mon you planners get a grip!
On the traffic light issue. I thought the idea was to have a shared space where traffic and pedestrians coexisted in harmony to give a Parisian boulevard feel. With more traffic lights it feels more like Central London. Why oh why does this city seem to buy all the excess traffic lights in the country. Also having a pedestrian crossing near to a roundabout is a disaster waiting to happen. C'mon you planners get a grip! Major disaster
  • Score: 5

6:08pm Wed 9 Apr 14

ad47uk says...

it seem like they put the pedestrian crossing back by the heardsman, so I can cross over to get to the city centre without going any where near that place.
The traffic is awful, with more houses being built and these shops opening it will be worse, thank goodness I don't drive.
it seem like they put the pedestrian crossing back by the heardsman, so I can cross over to get to the city centre without going any where near that place. The traffic is awful, with more houses being built and these shops opening it will be worse, thank goodness I don't drive. ad47uk
  • Score: 1

6:12pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ubique1 says...

Saidflo, accepted , onward and upward my friend ,but conform to the traffic lights!
Saidflo, accepted , onward and upward my friend ,but conform to the traffic lights! Ubique1
  • Score: 6

6:43pm Wed 9 Apr 14

William Rudd says...

Seem to breed like rabbits these traffic lights
Seem to breed like rabbits these traffic lights William Rudd
  • Score: 5

7:24pm Wed 9 Apr 14

The Russian 1 says...

William Rudd wrote:
Seem to breed like rabbits these traffic lights
What a great idea, rabbit traffic lights that disappear down holes at night when they're not needed. Energy saving too!
[quote][p][bold]William Rudd[/bold] wrote: Seem to breed like rabbits these traffic lights[/p][/quote]What a great idea, rabbit traffic lights that disappear down holes at night when they're not needed. Energy saving too! The Russian 1
  • Score: 4

2:10pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Hereford Voice says...

William Rudd wrote:
Seem to breed like rabbits these traffic lights
Turn them off! Far too many traffic lights in this town already.
[quote][p][bold]William Rudd[/bold] wrote: Seem to breed like rabbits these traffic lights[/p][/quote]Turn them off! Far too many traffic lights in this town already. Hereford Voice
  • Score: 4

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