Shop swap: More big name city centre stores look set to move to Hereford's Old Market

Hereford Times: The provisional letting plan obtained by the Hereford Times. The provisional letting plan obtained by the Hereford Times.

MORE big name stores look set to follow Next, H&M and TK Maxx out of Hereford’s historic city centre.

The Hereford Times has this week seen floor plans showing how Fat Face, Clarks, Vodafone and River Island are all lined up for a move onto the Old Market development.

The first three firms are already based in and around High Town while River Island lost its city centre presence during a huge fire in 2010.

One independent retailer believes High Town could take five years to “evolve and readjust”

to the changes brought about by the opening of the new retail complex in the spring.

Old Market developer Stanhope is also hoping to bring beauty store L’Occitane en Provence in and has hailed the fact that just 10% of the site is still available.

But Luke Conod, owner of city fashion store FIT, is angry at the way Stanhope has approached national firms already established in Hereford.

The disappointment, added Mr Conod, is that Herefordshire Council relaxed its policy of to whom developers could let. In documents released last year, Hereford Futures pledged its vision of attracting new businesses but it also stated that Stanhope must seek formal approval from Herefordshire Council on any lettings.

Despite being the city ward’s representative, It’s Our County councillor Mark Hubbard said neither his approval nor his oversight have been sought on any letting and he too believes that the council has failed at the negotiating table, specifically in its responsibility to protect existing businesses.

Stanhope director Gary Bourne defended the way national chain stores had been approached.

He said: “Modern retailer requirements have changed significantly and many now demand high specification, larger units in fewer locations nationally.

“TK Maxx and Next have both indicated that the Old Market is currently the only viable site in Hereford to accommodate their modern format.”

And, at a time when no other regional city is attracting such levels of private investment, Mr Bourne said that bigger stores for existing retailers, as well as new names, will only enhance Hereford’s reputation.

Mr Conod agreed that the Old Market would be good from a shoppers’ point of view, adding that it would also make the city a destination.

But he also urged the public to continue supporting High Town and saw some reasons to be cheerful.

“From department stores to supermarkets, the high street has always found a way to evolve,” he added.

“But I think it will take High Town around five years to readjust – as would be the case anywhere else.”

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1:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

oldergit says...

Maylords Orchard was the in thing in shopping centres when it opened. Now TK Max whichis part of it is leaving all it will be is a supersized Wilko. For me now it's just a short cut to the bus stop.
Maylords Orchard was the in thing in shopping centres when it opened. Now TK Max whichis part of it is leaving all it will be is a supersized Wilko. For me now it's just a short cut to the bus stop. oldergit

2:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bobby47 says...

What more can you say? The original 'promise' was, 'this'll create a thousand jobs, deliver us a bright economic future and not one single existing High Town and City trader will be allowed to cross the road to the new development. Never!, they said. Never! All these things that we've done will aid High Town and the City and the future is bright.
Now of course, in their minds, the ones who create this make believe world, it was never said. Instead, the line is, we are reacting positively to the ever changing market forces that require flexible and pragmatic thinking.
It's all been a lie and one created by incompetent bungling idiots aided and abetted by elected Councillors who simply opened their mouths, swallowed whatever was poured upon the spoon and sat back as our homeland was asset stripped by outside forces keen to feed upon our collective stupidity.
And, to rub the salt that all over the walls of this new building, into our throbbing wounds, they've been given a five hundred and fifty year lease to do what ever they want to the City retail zone.
On a lighter note, I'd love to know why Stanhope made Jarvis sign over another fifty years on top of that five hundred? It's all madness and we are doomed.
What more can you say? The original 'promise' was, 'this'll create a thousand jobs, deliver us a bright economic future and not one single existing High Town and City trader will be allowed to cross the road to the new development. Never!, they said. Never! All these things that we've done will aid High Town and the City and the future is bright. Now of course, in their minds, the ones who create this make believe world, it was never said. Instead, the line is, we are reacting positively to the ever changing market forces that require flexible and pragmatic thinking. It's all been a lie and one created by incompetent bungling idiots aided and abetted by elected Councillors who simply opened their mouths, swallowed whatever was poured upon the spoon and sat back as our homeland was asset stripped by outside forces keen to feed upon our collective stupidity. And, to rub the salt that all over the walls of this new building, into our throbbing wounds, they've been given a five hundred and fifty year lease to do what ever they want to the City retail zone. On a lighter note, I'd love to know why Stanhope made Jarvis sign over another fifty years on top of that five hundred? It's all madness and we are doomed. bobby47

2:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Everywhere says...

Is there anybody within the Council tasked in either keeping stores or getting new stores into the High Town area . Can foresee tumbleweed rolling through the town soon or they have a secret plan to make High Town a Pay send Display car park.
As an aside saw in the Cabinet Agenda for yesterday a proposal to move the Customer Services from Framklin House to the Library in Broad St. Haven't the Council just spent a load of money setting up this modern , welcoming Public areas including allowing the down trodden Herefordshire public to use the toilets on theses premises.?
Is there anybody within the Council tasked in either keeping stores or getting new stores into the High Town area . Can foresee tumbleweed rolling through the town soon or they have a secret plan to make High Town a Pay send Display car park. As an aside saw in the Cabinet Agenda for yesterday a proposal to move the Customer Services from Framklin House to the Library in Broad St. Haven't the Council just spent a load of money setting up this modern , welcoming Public areas including allowing the down trodden Herefordshire public to use the toilets on theses premises.? Everywhere

3:25pm Fri 24 Jan 14

drjazz says...

I know a lot of people are looking forward to the new multiplex cinema in this development but has anyone noticed just how tiny it is? Looking at this plan it appears about the same size as Clark's shoe shop!
I know a lot of people are looking forward to the new multiplex cinema in this development but has anyone noticed just how tiny it is? Looking at this plan it appears about the same size as Clark's shoe shop! drjazz

4:17pm Fri 24 Jan 14

AylestoneVoice says...

drjazz - That is just the entrance to the cinema- it will have 6 screens including one 3D
drjazz - That is just the entrance to the cinema- it will have 6 screens including one 3D AylestoneVoice

5:27pm Fri 24 Jan 14

saidflo says...

Warm regards returned to you Bobby.
The figure for "new" jobs I read was 1,100. Waitrose and Debenhams trawled for 250, leaving a shortfall of 850 missing new jobs!
The salt encrusted Debenhams "behind" upsets me too. Looks more like a prison or a 60's building ready to be demolished than a new future for Hereford ( imo from Edgar Street roundabout viewpoint). I envisage enormous billboard ads up there in time. Does anyone know Banksy? Maybe we have a budding Herefordian Banksy who could supply a masterpiece to soften the Debenham's brick ugliness, for the next 550 years!
Warm regards returned to you Bobby. The figure for "new" jobs I read was 1,100. Waitrose and Debenhams trawled for 250, leaving a shortfall of 850 missing new jobs! The salt encrusted Debenhams "behind" upsets me too. Looks more like a prison or a 60's building ready to be demolished than a new future for Hereford ( imo from Edgar Street roundabout viewpoint). I envisage enormous billboard ads up there in time. Does anyone know Banksy? Maybe we have a budding Herefordian Banksy who could supply a masterpiece to soften the Debenham's brick ugliness, for the next 550 years! saidflo

7:04pm Fri 24 Jan 14

drjazz says...

AylestoneVoice wrote:
drjazz - That is just the entrance to the cinema- it will have 6 screens including one 3D
Oh right - then in that case just look at the size of the entrance to the new cinema - it's the size of a whole shoe shop! Must be terribly difficult to concentrate too with 6 films going at the same time (including one in 3D).
[quote][p][bold]AylestoneVoice[/bold] wrote: drjazz - That is just the entrance to the cinema- it will have 6 screens including one 3D[/p][/quote]Oh right - then in that case just look at the size of the entrance to the new cinema - it's the size of a whole shoe shop! Must be terribly difficult to concentrate too with 6 films going at the same time (including one in 3D). drjazz

9:42am Mon 27 Jan 14

Hereford Voice says...

saidflo wrote:
Warm regards returned to you Bobby.
The figure for "new" jobs I read was 1,100. Waitrose and Debenhams trawled for 250, leaving a shortfall of 850 missing new jobs!
The salt encrusted Debenhams "behind" upsets me too. Looks more like a prison or a 60's building ready to be demolished than a new future for Hereford ( imo from Edgar Street roundabout viewpoint). I envisage enormous billboard ads up there in time. Does anyone know Banksy? Maybe we have a budding Herefordian Banksy who could supply a masterpiece to soften the Debenham's brick ugliness, for the next 550 years!
It's also the wrong way around, it looks like we are looking at the back, what's with all the brickwork? I thought this was going to be nice and modern with lots of glass, oh no, Hereford Council don't like modern do they..
[quote][p][bold]saidflo[/bold] wrote: Warm regards returned to you Bobby. The figure for "new" jobs I read was 1,100. Waitrose and Debenhams trawled for 250, leaving a shortfall of 850 missing new jobs! The salt encrusted Debenhams "behind" upsets me too. Looks more like a prison or a 60's building ready to be demolished than a new future for Hereford ( imo from Edgar Street roundabout viewpoint). I envisage enormous billboard ads up there in time. Does anyone know Banksy? Maybe we have a budding Herefordian Banksy who could supply a masterpiece to soften the Debenham's brick ugliness, for the next 550 years![/p][/quote]It's also the wrong way around, it looks like we are looking at the back, what's with all the brickwork? I thought this was going to be nice and modern with lots of glass, oh no, Hereford Council don't like modern do they.. Hereford Voice

10:41am Mon 27 Jan 14

mizza21 says...

What an utter disgrace.

There were assurances given that existing retailers in High Town would not simply move to the new OLM development.
The reason for this is that there were concerns that the existing Town Centre would become a retail poor cousin/ghost town to the new OLM development.
The OLM was meant to enhance and compliment the existing retail environment.
This was the basis of discussion even as short a time ago as January 2013.

It appears that this was all a load of flannell designed to fob off those concerned with the existing historical town centre's fate.

Please learn the lesson good folk of Hereford.
Politicians, developers, planning departments do not always say what they mean or mean what they say.
They are not to be trusted.

Russell Brand may be an egotistical narcissistic buffoon, but he is right about this. Do not endorse all of this bad behaviour with your vote. They work for us not for themselves and their cronies.
Don't vote for any of them. They are all the same when they get a sniff of power.
What an utter disgrace. There were assurances given that existing retailers in High Town would not simply move to the new OLM development. The reason for this is that there were concerns that the existing Town Centre would become a retail poor cousin/ghost town to the new OLM development. The OLM was meant to enhance and compliment the existing retail environment. This was the basis of discussion even as short a time ago as January 2013. It appears that this was all a load of flannell designed to fob off those concerned with the existing historical town centre's fate. Please learn the lesson good folk of Hereford. Politicians, developers, planning departments do not always say what they mean or mean what they say. They are not to be trusted. Russell Brand may be an egotistical narcissistic buffoon, but he is right about this. Do not endorse all of this bad behaviour with your vote. They work for us not for themselves and their cronies. Don't vote for any of them. They are all the same when they get a sniff of power. mizza21

3:14pm Tue 28 Jan 14

littlewhitebull says...

Why should we believe a word our politicians utter?
The American speaker and writer, Denis Waitley, once said:
"Losers make promises they often break. Winners make commitments they always keep."
A reasonable summary, in my humble opinion.
Why should we believe a word our politicians utter? The American speaker and writer, Denis Waitley, once said: "Losers make promises they often break. Winners make commitments they always keep." A reasonable summary, in my humble opinion. littlewhitebull

1:00pm Fri 31 Jan 14

s.cowell says...

Am i the only one excited by the prospect of River Island coming back to Hereford?? WOOP WOOP!
Am i the only one excited by the prospect of River Island coming back to Hereford?? WOOP WOOP! s.cowell

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