Council faces six-figure bill for value for money report

CASH-strapped and cuts slashed Herefordshire Council faces a six-figure bill for a value for money report.

The £164,803 sum – as proposed – covers the cost of an outside audit of the council’s accounts over 2012/13.

But even that fee represents a reduction of well over £100k on the bill for the year before, which came in at nearly £275k.

The Audit Commission appointed Birmingham based Grant Thornton UK LLP as Herefordshire Council’s auditors, a service that the firm expects to offer for at least the next five years. It is also the Audit Commission that sets the scales of fees for this service.

This week, the council’s audit and corporate governance committee was told that the council’s scale fee for 2012/13 would be £164,803, down 40 per cent - or £109,869 - on the £274,672 total for 2011/12.

For that sum the council gets a full audit of its financial statements and conclusions on the “economy, efficiency and effectiveness” of the way it uses resources – the value for money element.

Under the Audit Commission Act, Grant Thornton must be satisfied that the council has “adequate” arrangements in place to secure that value for money, focusing on securing financial resilience and prioritising resources within tightening budgets.

Over 2013/14 the council faces a cut of nearly £5.5m in central government funding alone working to a budget of £145m and a shortfall of around £10m overall. The council’s survival as a fully-functioning unitary authority depends on a medium term savings plan that can cope with more cuts coming its way and keep services within resources.

The committee was told that the basis of the fee included “certain assumptions” such as Hoople – the company set up by the council to provide public sector support services –providing “appropriate access and working papers of the required standard.”

Oversight of the Hoople contract is a responsibility of the council’s chief
finance officer.

Grant Thornton confirmed its appointment as the council’s auditor in December last year. Then, the council was told that Grant Thornton would bill quarterly in advance and, given the timing of its appointment, would bill for two quarters dated December 2012.

A break down of billing for the main audit fee is:

  • December 2012 - £82,401
  • January 2013 - £41,201
  • March - 2013 - £41,201

Audit planning and other interim procedures start next month with the annual audit letter summarising the findings expected out in October.

Comments(9)

Ubique5740 says...
3:45pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Oh dear. Will leave it to other posters to fill in the gaps!

dippyhippy says...
8:42am Sat 23 Feb 13

The irony of this is not lost on me. Where to begin? We could be here all weekend!!

probono says...
11:01am Sat 23 Feb 13

Thought Eric Pickles had abolished the Audit Commission. They are expensive but they are the public's way of ensuring all is correct and above board and they will investigate legitimate concerns over mismanagment of money and finanacial incorrectness. HC need to be thoroughly scrutinised for a few years yet after the IT scandal et al. Wonder if all these Contracts that seem to have been handed out all over the place is something they shoudl investigate. Were they all correctly procured I wonder ?

Themightyboosh says...
11:43am Sat 23 Feb 13

why do we keep paying vast sums of money to outside sources to do the job
that council management are already paid to do.
its not just this audit it seems to be in every dept.

i tend to ask myself the question if our council managers cant do the job they are paid for then
(A)why are they not sacked.
(B)why are they paid so much.

yet again thank you HEREford council for my daily kick in the testies.

William Rudd says...
11:59am Sat 23 Feb 13

Hereford Times and the words 'value for money' do not go together very well at the moment

Grid Knocker says...
7:44pm Sat 23 Feb 13

@Themighgtyboosh: because these chancers see dear old, sleepy old Herefordshire Council coming a mile off. Every single time. Commercial operators ruthlessly drive down prices, getting competitive quotations then playing one bidder off against another. By contrast, the Brockington numpties just look in the Yellow Pages.

nickt2635 says...
10:00am Mon 25 Feb 13

William Rudd wrote:
Hereford Times and the words 'value for money' do not go together very well at the moment
I used to look forward to Thursday "Hereford Times Day", not any more, not so long ago it was 60p it then jumped to 85p and when i went to get a copy last Thursday i was totally shocked and disgusted that it had reached £1.20!!! Thats a 100% rise in a very short time, i'll never buy it again!!!

Mr.Herefordian says...
12:51pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Yes I must agree I have paid for the H/T and the old Evening News for many years, I can get all news from the Journal, H&W radio and online.
So goodbye and good luck, although I may comment now and then.

nickt2635 says...
2:37pm Mon 25 Feb 13

I think HT may have shot themselves in the foot with this price hike because the owner of my local news agent told me that almost all of his customers who regularly buy the HT were so disgusted when they got to the till and were asked for £1.20 that they put it back and said NEVER again would they buy it!!! As Mr Herefordian says, you can get all the news nowadays in the Journal and it's free!!!

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