Herefordshire Council has borrowed nearly £23 million in past four months

CASH-strapped Herefordshire Council has borrowed nearly £23 million from other councils since May this year with much of the money going towards making ends meet.

But £6m borrowed over August-September alone was to fund capital spending, including the Rockfield purchase for Hereford’s proposed link road project.

A new treasury management report prepared for the council shows the total interest paid on all these loans to the end of September as topping £4m.

The council borrowed between £2m and £3.97m each time, from councils including Worcestershire, Rhondda, Coventry, Leicester and East Renfrewshire.

Repayments were due between seven and 52 days after borrowing at interest rates ranging from 0.26 per cent to 0.29 per cent.

In addition to the interest the council also pays broker commission at 0.1 per cent per annum.

The report says the short-term loans taken out in May were to “provide additional liquidity at a time when balances were relatively low”.

Borrowing over August to September was, the report says, to fund capital expenditure including the Rockfield purchase completed in August.

The council refers only to an “undisclosed sum” paid out over Rockfield and reached after several years of negotiation.

In July this year the Hereford Times revealed that the council’s overall borrowing debt was £173m and would have been much higher had the council not used reserve funds to meet its needs.

Figures for the end of the last financial year show that to keep up with its ongoing capital scheme the council needed to borrow as much as £208m and it was only by using reserves that the council could borrow around £34m less.

Comments(25)

bobby47 says...
9:22am Mon 29 Oct 12

If I see our Bill Tanner in Woody's purchasing a quarter pint of mixed maggots Im going to stab him in the eye with a soft leaded pencil.
I can't take anymore of this news about our bloody Council and their crazy form of democracy and good house keeping.
Im for gathering up a bunch of Posters, tippy toe into the Hereford Times Office, and with the aid of a small nail hammer flatten all the digits on Bills hands so that he can't type anymore and tell us what this bloody Council are doing to us.
We've gotta get rid of this Council. Not only are they cocking everything up, they are borrowing money to do it. Im serious, this Council mean to bring us down and we've gotta do something.

billyb83 says...
10:29am Mon 29 Oct 12

Thing is bobby people in Hereford don't have a backbone there are to many do gooders here who just go with everything the council do and say. Council tax for one is unlawful look up John Harris and see what he says it opens a few people's eyes let me tell you.

Roger J says...
12:58pm Mon 29 Oct 12

It never ceases to amaze me how this bunch of inept morons can squander cash on totally asinine projects but can't afford the basics like keeping public toilets open.

Clarkester says...
1:21pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Because, Roger J... Here You Can...
I've got a great idea. We should replace all the traffic lights with flowers! And all the road signs with an empty cardboard box!
I know what you're thinking... It'll never work. But give it a try, for a year maybe.
I'm not charging much for my countywide rebranding, just a couple of million... Because, Here, you can!

KNIGHTROOK says...
1:30pm Mon 29 Oct 12

I remember when Rockfield diy moved to the Rockfield trading estate back in the 1970's when it was partnered with Norman Norbury,

The store has always had a familial atmosphere that will be sorely missed.

But progress is progress for progresses sake.

The land locked location which was cheaply negotiated by the directors of Rockfield has proved to be a viable investment.

Compulsory purchase would have netted the owners of Rockfield Diy Ltd with a lot less than they received through negotiations no doubt.

I was under the impression that the land the building sat on belonged to the council anyway and the building was all that was for negotiation.

Relocation would have been very simple to negotiate...there are many units in Hereford that are empty an in need of long term tenants. Holmer road could have done with the competition.

Sadly like many other Large Long established family businesses in Hereford such as Chadd's, Praills, Greenland's, Townsends, Bristow Bros the forces of demand and modernization are in social economics unlikely partners but necessary evils that stamp on values and tradition in favor of progress...?

Hereford is changing but will it become a place we will embrace or shun we have yet to wait and see.

Patley says...
3:23pm Mon 29 Oct 12

I drove through Hereford today to visit a relative and I thought how drab and grubby it was all looking. I was born here and very proud to be a Herefordian but of late all this council does is run down the town and spend our money on stupid gimmicks! Christmas is coming but we have no shops and soon no public facilities - we need to get the right people in place making the right decisions and quick!

littlewhitebull says...
3:45pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Clarkester wrote:
Because, Roger J... Here You Can...
I've got a great idea. We should replace all the traffic lights with flowers! And all the road signs with an empty cardboard box!
I know what you're thinking... It'll never work. But give it a try, for a year maybe.
I'm not charging much for my countywide rebranding, just a couple of million... Because, Here, you can!
You might be on to a winner with your idea, Clarkester.
A few weeks ago I had to deliver to Ross, Abergavenny and Garway when the traffic lights by Asda were not functioning. Perhaps I was lucky, but there were no traffic hold-ups - almost everybody behaved well. Send your bill to Plough Lane!

M M says...
6:49pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Here we can ........Borrow £23 Million in four months.
When are the fools going to learn that you have to cut your coat according to the material available? Now the Government has capped the Council Tax again next year with interest on the borrowed money how will they repay this loan? I am willing to bet they won't cut their salaries, in fact they will probably give themselves a pay rise!

bobby47 says...
7:34pm Mon 29 Oct 12

What is really frightening is that at a time when they knew they were in financial trouble, they commissioned these new 'Here You Can' road signs.
They've got to grasp the stinging nettle and deal with these problems. No more job creation excercises, trim the bloated salary tree, start getting rid of the jobs within the Council that we don't need. Get rid of this culture of sending things out to Consultant firms and stop travelling, eating and drinking at our expense.

Lukio says...
8:32pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Ok, borrowing so much money I'd expect to see an improvement in our services. But alas, lets have a think at what we're (not) getting from our beloved HC highlighted in the past few months:

A new chief exec costing hundreds of thousands of pounds;
Increased parking charges;
No public toilets;
Failed children's protection services;
No more black bin bags;
Secret meetings;
Questionable relationships with u elected Hereford Futures;
Electric car charging at bequest of a local business despite no identifiable need;
Cuts to local NHS services e.g. Ross hospital;
'Here you can' road signs fiasco;
Information blackouts on reports;
£12000 on bottled water;
Parks and open spaces neglect;
Expense claims increase;
Register Office closures in the market towns;
Rockfield;
Constant traffic gridlock and the bypass debacle;
Pot holes;
Widemarsh Street's 'invisible' curbs.

I've only gone back seven months as I was getting to the point where I was losing the will to live.

Anyway, I'm sure some of the regular posters on here will think of more wonderful things HC have done in recent months, how wisely they have spent public money and what an amazing job they are doing to take the county into the future.

bobby47 says...
10:22pm Mon 29 Oct 12

To add to Lukio's list....
Vegetation that blocked our flood defences.
The Lift to Garrick House Car Park fiasco.
The On Off fiasco concerning the proposed build of the new footbridge that would cross the Wye at the Outfall Road and continue to Rotherwas.

probono says...
9:25am Tue 30 Oct 12

Need the money to pay Mr Bull's retirement package, gagging orders, golden handshakes and bringing in enforcers as consultants to rid council of the workers and junior ranks .
Too many chiefs etc...

TwoWheelsGood says...
10:46am Tue 30 Oct 12

bobby47 - a slight correction - its not a 'footbridge' - it will be a shared use path - for pedestrians, cyclists and, if one councillor has her way, horse and carriage. But, yes, management of that has been a fiasco - even when the Council are given £350k they still can't get their act together to spend it.

Reading this report again, I note these are very short term loans - 7 to 52 days long - it increasingly looks like the Council appear to be living from hand to mouth - borrowing from Peter to pay Paul ... and a nice commission each time to the 'broker'.

TwoWheelsGood says...
2:18pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Lukio - add the £300k refurbishment of part of Franklin Barnes to allow Garrick House to be demolished, only to find Stanhope didn't want Garrick House and they could have saved the money for better use elsewhere ...

bobby47 says...
3:08pm Tue 30 Oct 12

TwoWheels, I've no idea why you are bothering with all this. You are about to lay down your life, tethered to a goat and clutching a couple of ducks in a pointless protest outside the Town Hall.

Lukio says...
3:08pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Well spotted guys - keep 'em coming :)

GDJ says...
5:05pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Can I add "locality hubs".

You are probably not managerial enough to understand what one of these is so I will condescendingly explain.

They are offices.... in places. Only with more managerial furniture.

They are part of the centralise/decentral
ise/centralise cycle that managers so enjoy. There are several locality hubs as part of a decentralisation. Wait till there is new management and they will disappear again in the pursuit of efficiency and centralisation.

TwoWheelsGood says...
5:06pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Lukio - what about the Council's funding of the 'Freedom Church' and its questionable youth activities (handing out sweets to school children, for instance)? This place even warrants exemption from the heavy hand of ESG/Hereford Futiles so-called masterplan, granted planning permission for their 'church' in Coningsby Street, contrary to the plan and in the face of neighbour objections about their anti-social behaviour, including loud rock music rehearsals late at night, which I know has forced at least one family to sell up and move.

TwoWheelsGood says...
5:12pm Tue 30 Oct 12

bobby47 - no farmyard animals will be harmed in my protest conflagration - in fact, neither will I, for I have been inducted into the black art of smoke and mirrors by a tame councillor, who was herself taught by the chosen ones in Brockington Towers. Don't weep for me burning in the wicker cage, for I shall have been spirited away in her horse and carriage, with a slightly singed goat to keep me company under the hessian. I'll be back.

bobby47 says...
5:32pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Well done. I was worried you were trying to get out of it. It'll be great. You'll have the time of your life on the other side.
We will all remember you as a man of principle and when you do go down there with your clipper lighter and accelerant to do this demented act me and the lads will be there in the pub waving you off.
It'll obviously be on YouTube so put on a good show and don't let us down.

probono says...
7:43pm Tue 30 Oct 12

TwoWheels Good - do you know how much its costs the City Council to get the horse and carriage out for a tame lady Councillor ?

Lukio says...
8:36pm Tue 30 Oct 12

@TwoWheels - you make a good point. HC support Freedom Church so robustly as they provide youth services thus meaning they don't have to.

A Council favouring an extreme religious organisation (let's face it - they are) is extremely questionable and should be looked at in more detail. But as I say, what FC are doing means HC don't have to so they're quids in. Another service they don't have to do.

I have a friend who lives near FC. They are very bad neighbours playing loud music late into the night which is intrusive into people's daily lives. The local Environmental Health authority are not interested and although they've monitored the sound levels they won't do anything about it to quieten them. If the local residents want to do anything about it, their only option is a private prosecution which is very costly.

TwoWheelsGood says...
9:25pm Tue 30 Oct 12

But is bunging an extreme religious organisation a wad of our cash to look after vulnerable youths, so the Council don't have to, the best use of our money or indeed the best care we can/should offer? In the light of the recent Ofsted report about the Councils standards of child protection services, and indeed HT's previous investigations into FC, should further questions be asked? Why are these people are paid to deliver sexual health work in schools,when they openly have extreme views on sexuality, for instance? Where are the checks and balances?

I'm aware of the noise issue - its quite deplorable that Council funded anti-social behaviour is driving people from their homes.

Lukio says...
9:47pm Tue 30 Oct 12

You raise some really good points however I doubt these questions will ever be asked of the council.

fordshire77 says...
12:20pm Wed 31 Oct 12

On a plus side we had the Queen vist us for 3hrs this year....but im guessing it cost more than we made that day.

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